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  1. #11
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    xNewbx's Avatar
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    The reason why protect has managed to stay in the game is because of one thing. During an 8 man Raid/Primal, anyone who dies will need a new protect on them. If you chose to free up a slot, well that person isn't getting a protect obviously. I still think it's a really bad reason to keep it the way it currently is.
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    Janhyua Yotsuyu
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    Why would anyone not use it?

    Tell people that on raid finder protect is uselss you be kicked lol
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  3. #13
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    Kandy Kayn
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    Hello healers of FFXIV, I would like to suggest an amazing macro for Protect or any other Role Action.

    /macroicon Protect
    /macroerror off
    /aaction Largesse off
    /aaction Protect on
    /ac "Protect" <me>
    /wait 3
    /aaction Protect off
    /aaction Largesse on

    What this macro does is uses Protect and then switches to another Role Action for the duration of a fight. Note it cannot be used in battle, but is quite advantageous when no has to be revived during a fight as it allows use of another Role Action. Simply replace Largesse with another Role action in the macro.
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  4. #14
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    Riyshn'a Nhise
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    Quote Originally Posted by rxnin View Post
    Hello healers of FFXIV, I would like to suggest an amazing macro for Protect or any other Role Action.

    /macroicon Protect
    /macroerror off
    /aaction Largesse off
    /aaction Protect on
    /ac "Protect" <me>
    /wait 3
    /aaction Protect off
    /aaction Largesse on

    What this macro does is uses Protect and then switches to another Role Action for the duration of a fight. Note it cannot be used in battle, but is quite advantageous when no has to be revived during a fight as it allows use of another Role Action. Simply replace Largesse with another Role action in the macro.
    And as much as people like you want to keep spreading that macro around everywhere, it's still worthless in a raid, where Protect is frequently needed mid-fight after rezzing someone.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Riyshn View Post
    And as much as people like you want to keep spreading that macro around everywhere, it's still worthless in a raid, where Protect is frequently needed mid-fight after rezzing someone.
    Quote Originally Posted by rxnin View Post
    Note it cannot be used in battle, but is quite advantageous when no has to be revived during a fight as it allows use of another Role Action. Simply replace Largesse with another Role action in the macro.
    Thanks for repeating exactly what she said. Everyone needed it. I posted a similar macro a couple posts before. I realized it was possible before SB even launched and wrote it to help people level.
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  6. #16
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    Lyli Hanabira
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by rxnin View Post
    Hello healers of FFXIV, I would like to suggest an amazing macro for Protect or any other Role Action.

    /macroicon Protect
    /macroerror off
    /aaction Largesse off
    /aaction Protect on
    /ac "Protect" <me>
    /wait 3
    /aaction Protect off
    /aaction Largesse on

    What this macro does is uses Protect and then switches to another Role Action for the duration of a fight. Note it cannot be used in battle, but is quite advantageous when no has to be revived during a fight as it allows use of another Role Action. Simply replace Largesse with another Role action in the macro.
    This is awesome, thank you!
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  7. #17
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    Maeka Blazewing
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    Quote Originally Posted by xNewbx View Post
    The reason why protect has managed to stay in the game is because of one thing. During an 8 man Raid/Primal, anyone who dies will need a new protect on them. If you chose to free up a slot, well that person isn't getting a protect obviously. I still think it's a really bad reason to keep it the way it currently is.
    They could simply add a Defense -15% to the Weakness debuffs, or just shrug it off and just give us Protect baseline. I mean, Protect doesn't cost any MP, and it just makes 1 healer stand around doing nothing for ~5 seconds.

    I don't think it would really break any balance to just get rid of Protect and give everybody 15% more Defense while in instances automatically.
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  8. #18
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 90
    We have 6 mandatory abilities, and 5 role skill slots. If we don't slot protect, and don't want to bother with swap or macro, that's our business. Kick us if you want. Protect is hardly necessary.

    Edit: seriously though, for every tank that refues to pull without protect up, we have another that can't sit still long enough for us to cast it. I've stopped caring what other people want at this point.
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    Last edited by Kethic; 07-17-2017 at 11:45 AM.

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    Ven Black
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    Coeurl
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    It's important to remember that only one healer really ever needs to take protect in 8 man content.
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  10. #20
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    Lyrai Celestine
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    Largesse: Must-have
    Lucid Dreaming: Must-Have for WHM (dunno about AST).
    Imo, here are my comments on Healer's Role Skills:
    • Largesse is not a must-have. WHM's healing is amped up a so it's not necessary but still useful, while AST and SCH used to have no "Divine Seal" to begin with, but could make use of it for stronger shields / heals. A very strong pick indeed.
    • Lucid Dreaming is a must have for WHM and AST. For SCH, it's a QoL improvement; if they're content without it (Because Aetherflow) it's fine.
    • Esuna is not a must-have. Especially in trials that have no Esuna-able debuffs. For instance, Susano EX and Lakshmi EX have none of these, so it's safe to take off Esuna. But it's a must have in Datascape v4.0 because Doom is Esuna-able; and to one healer at that!
    • Eye 4 Eye is situational, but could definitely help with damage mitigation in raids when used properly.
    • Rescue is a peculiar ability, but could save someone from failing a mechanic. Perhaps for one, I could force a party member to follow the thunder mechanic in Susano EX? Yup, that's more like it. :P

    All things considered, I always have a slot for Protect after looking at the above. Perhaps this could help you guys.

    ... Protect is a must-pick in every situation. I mean, they could just take off Protect entirely. But if they insist, I have nothing against it.
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    Last edited by Lyrai_Celestine; 07-17-2017 at 12:20 PM.

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