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    Nerf it to be as weak as Physick on SMN. That's fair.
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    No why? That would defeat the purpose of red mage. Only reason why red mage as a better cure than smn is because of the white magic they use. It only makes sense.

    Please don't need red mage Vercure, it's fine where it's at. It's helpful for keeping the main tank up while rezzing healers, but in no way have I seen successfully replace a healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    No why? That would defeat the purpose of red mage. Only reason why red mage as a better cure than smn is because of the white magic they use. It only makes sense.

    Please don't need red mage Vercure, it's fine where it's at. It's helpful for keeping the main tank up while rezzing healers, but in no way have I seen successfully replace a healer.
    It's not fine. SMN has no way to actually keep their alive and are at the mercy of other healers paying attention (they don't care) or constantly moving them. Unlike RDM, SMN actually has a logical reason to have to heal something. So no. RDM either gets Physick levels of healing or SMN gets RDM levels of healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rubiss View Post
    It's not fine. SMN has no way to actually keep their alive and are at the mercy of other healers paying attention (they don't care) or constantly moving them. Unlike RDM, SMN actually has a logical reason to have to heal something. So no. RDM either gets Physick levels of healing or SMN gets RDM levels of healing.


    Summoners don't use white magic. Class flavor says that they don't get a strong heal. That is what the devs said, and that is how it is. Don't compare the class design of summoner to rdm.

    That is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Summoners don't use white magic. Class flavor says that they don't get a strong heal. That is what the devs said, and that is how it is. Don't compare the class design of summoner to rdm.

    That is all.
    Still not understanding why a Scholar can heal well with Physick and do the same damage with Bio and Miasma yet SMN is unable to. Like I said, either nerf RDM or buff SMN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavaryen View Post
    Summoners don't use white magic. Class flavor says that they don't get a strong heal. That is what the devs said, and that is how it is. Don't compare the class design of summoner to rdm.

    That is all.
    and SMN wouldn't need that heal to be strong (wouldn't need to have it at all since its so worthless without the proper scaling) if we got sustain back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvina View Post
    and SMN wouldn't need that heal to be strong (wouldn't need to have it at all since its so worthless without the proper scaling) if we got sustain back.
    Summoner does need sustain back. That was a silly change given how suicidal the pet can be.
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    Buff Blackmage
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    If there was a downvote button I'd be pressing it.