Some healers make me panic

[Tinkerblue]

It is boring keeping a tank at >50% HP all the time. I enjoy dpsing because it gives me something to do and I have a few things in my kit that will instantly bring the tank/party health back up. Tanks have cooldowns too. I'd think y'all be bored never popping those as well. That said, I have overextended and wiped the party before. I learn from it and keep enjoying my job.

[Derio]

As long as I don't die, then it's ok.

[RubenSnizzle]

If you're a pld just clemency your bum, if the healer complains, tell him whats on your mind about his dpsin and him noticing you low as hell and he uses his panic healing cause he went tunnel vision, same thing for warrior, pop inner beast, equilibrium and a max potion, won't give as much as clemency spam, but its gonna ease your mind and tell the healer 'Heal me k?'.

[347SPECTRE]

If you're a pld just clemency your bum, if the healer complains, tell him whats on your mind about his dpsin and him noticing you low as hell and he uses his panic healing cause he went tunnel vision, same thing for warrior, pop inner beast, equilibrium and a max potion, won't give as much as clemency spam, but its gonna ease your mind and tell the healer 'Heal me k?'.

And DRK is pretty much screwed, DA Soul Eater is laughable at best, and DA + AD is only effective in large groups, and not very effective to begin with.

[Shurrikhan]

Except clemency heals for less than half a cure 2. So you lose 2 paladin gcd vs just 1 healer gcd.

Not with slaying accessories, it doesn't. With Req-Conv I crit Clemency for 24k, or hit for 14k+ with Req alone. That is damn close to the healing of a Cure II, and regular hit to regular hit outperforms Adloquiem.

Why are people so apt to forgo primary stat for a mere extra couple GCDs of health, when the difference in accessories could make back that freed healer time every Requiescat, on top of better holding enmity and contributing damage? Its like somehow trading Mind for Piety. Boggles the mind.

[DacienSanderon]

Not with slaying accessories, it doesn't. With Req-Conv I crit Clemency for 24k, or hit for 14k+ with Req alone. That is damn close to the healing of a Cure II, and regular hit to regular hit outperforms Adloquiem.

Why are people so apt to forgo primary stat for a mere extra couple GCDs of health, when the difference in accessories could make back that freed healer time every Requiescat, on top of better holding enmity and contributing damage? Its like somehow trading Mind for Piety. Boggles the mind.

They make lvl 70 str accessories with tenacity? Also, this thread has nothing to do with vit vs str argument.

[DynamoAce]

We're gonna go on a fun roller coaster ride full of thrills, that includes leaving you nearly dead and then popping instant heals! : D
Just kidding, but I always make sure the Tank lives, just adding bits more of dps rather than interrupting my flow to keep 'em above 20% feels a bit more fulfilling.

[AziraSyuren]

I'd rather a healer let me die trying to push out damage than keep me alive while not putting out much at all. At least the former shows some desire to improve themselves and their efficiency.

[Shurrikhan]

They make lvl 70 str accessories with tenacity? Also, this thread has nothing to do with vit vs str argument.

Ctrl-F "tenacity". Yours is the first mention of it in the entire thread. So why would Tenacity need to be relevant to what I said despite my and the person I quoted having made no mention of it?

Any argument of output is based first upon whether or not someone is using their output stats. If they are not actually maximizing their attack power, their metrics in judging a skill's strength generally or relative to other jobs is skewed. As it was in the reply I quoted, likely because they were taking a non-main stat (Vitality) over one that actually affects output (Strength).

[Gameplayzero]

Tank and Healer make a team, and this team functions far better when they trust each other. Sure, they can just go lone wolf towards each other, but that\\\\\\'s not productive for anybody in the group. When I'm treating the thing as if I'm trying to solo heal myself, I'm wasting a LOT of DPS output doing it.

Considering we are talking about a decent amount of trash mobs, healer dps ALWAYS takes priority. Tanks aoe dps doesn't compare and they should focus on healing themselves and mitigating so healers can dps. Vice versa on single targets. I will always take a back seat if I see a stance dancing tanking to make run faster, while weaving in dps when it's safe.

General rule: Are you dead? No? Great

Are you constantly dying? Then its a problem on either your end (gear sucks, mitigation is nonexistent, or too big of pulls for your current group) or the healers fault.