The Raid community as we know it

[YitharV2]

It was an interesting discussion I thought.

I was much more offended when i listened to some casual groups podcast for healing (NEST? Reddit is always wanking em' off) and they were giving horrible, awful advice. I mean if you ever watched their LOL FUNNY raids you wouldn't listen to anything they said but I do worry for the more inexperienced looking around for some healer advice and stumbling onto something like that.

Yeah, there was a reddit thread created by someone in one of the Discord servers I'm in. While I don't necessarily agree with the way he went about it, I think I sort of agree with his point, which someone else nicely stated in a comment reply.

The problem isnt healer should dps vs shouldn't dps. It's when you dont play efficiently with random people. At that point it's not just your time its 3-7 other people.(Not counting 24 mans cause that's another ballpark). However, if you're on a team whos ok with you not dpsing as a healer becuase your team isn't out to be cutting edge, then that's fine. Cause at that point your team knows about it and shouldn't mind it. Also, if they get results, much like NEST does, then go for it.

Now on my own personal stance, healers should dps to be efficient. Hopefully with healer dps scaling off of MND in SB. Coupled with the removal of CS it should help some healers make that final leap into dpsing more comfortably. As now you won't get caught in CS at a bad time when you need to heal. We will just need to see how it pans out in the next few weeks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ull_of_myself/

This is a response to that. And I sort of agree with him. Especially with Omega recently, there are sometimes mechanics that stack on top of each other so playing reactively isn't the best. I'd say the main thing I'm upset is that this advice may be followed by newer players who don't know any better.

What? I mean it, the question is.. what?
There are more people who spread out bad play than ''toxic'' play that you say. In fact you dont need to be doing that 1% to even raid, yo can be that 10% of the player community. You know what triggers me? All these people asking for nerf and such for a main story trial, doesn't that tell you anything? In fact... we know who's to blame for them not bothering. You see it here, in game and you see it in other threads. ''It's just a game'' ''no need to bother because it's just a game'' You see, I don't disagree it's a game, however, doesnt mean you should have attitude of not trying. When people sponsor bad play this happens...

Yep.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...being/dg7jnbe/

[SlogDog]

Yeah, there was a reddit thread created by someone in one of the Discord servers I'm in. While I don't necessarily agree with the way he went about it, I think I sort of agree with his point, which someone else nicely stated in a comment reply.



https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ull_of_myself/

This is a response to that. And I sort of agree with him. Especially with Omega recently, there are sometimes mechanics that stack on top of each other so playing reactively isn't the best. I'd say the main thing I'm upset is that this advice may be followed by newer players who don't know any better.



Yep.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...being/dg7jnbe/

I'm not going to get into the debate about DPS but their prediction for SB made me sad. I get my heart smashed constantly... I mean I gave up a fun aspect of my job, one i enjoyed, so that other healers would be more comfortable... but i still see sub 100 dps healers. I still see people defending them. I still see healers giving horrible advice trying to deflect their own shortcomings including "there is so much variety in heal styles!".

I agree with the thread and its sad to see people defending them. Like I said they can be horrible and fluff around all day- I don't have to deal with them, but soon as you give advice we have an issue.

ah ok ..if thats the case he wont get a whole lot of dps since I heal in raids with the occasional dps here and there

Classic.

[YitharV2]

I'm not going to get into the debate about DPS but their prediction for SB made me sad. I get my heart smashed constantly... I mean I gave up a fun aspect of my job, one i enjoyed, so that other healers would be more comfortable... but i still see sub 100 dps healers. I still see people defending them. I still see healers giving horrible advice trying to deflect their own shortcomings including "there is so much variety in heal styles!".

I agree with the thread and its sad to see people defending them. Like I said they can be horrible and fluff around all day- I don't have to deal with them, but soon as you give advice we have an issue.

I agree. I was doing Omega yesterday and in v3 there was a mentor healer just idling when there was no healing needed. It made me really sad.

Yeah, if she wants to do that with her group, that's fine. I don't have to play with her. But the fact that she's giving bad advice to new players is the problem I have.