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    There are alot of armor thats alrdy better than materia gear people are just looking @ numbers and not overall stats.

    Like the Mage body drop from darkhold gives + int mnd and pie thats +1 to 5 stats vs sloting 20 PIE or something to mage body which only gives you +4 to a single stats not all U/U gear is useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    There are alot of armor thats alrdy better than materia gear people are just looking @ numbers and not overall stats.

    Like the Mage body drop from darkhold gives + int mnd and pie thats +1 to 5 stats vs sloting 20 PIE or something to mage body which only gives you +4 to a single stats not all U/U gear is useless.
    That would make a lot of sense, if it was even remotely true. Unfortunately, you're forgetting that you have multiple slots to get those attributes buffed as well..... And if you go for lower tiers, like the IIs for example, you can get 3 slots filled quite easily. So, now you're talking about 7+ points to at least 3 separate attributes, or +7ish to 2 stats, and then +5 or so magic accy, or w/e else you want... as opposed to the "crappy" Revolutionary Bliaud from DH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khal_Drogo View Post
    That would make a lot of sense, if it was even remotely true. Unfortunately, you're forgetting that you have multiple slots to get those attributes buffed as well..... And if you go for lower tiers, like the IIs for example, you can get 3 slots filled quite easily. So, now you're talking about 7+ points to at least 3 separate attributes, or +7ish to 2 stats, and then +5 or so magic accy, or w/e else you want... as opposed to the "crappy" Revolutionary Bliaud from DH.
    Except every 5 of a pie int or mnd = 1 to the corresponding stat , unless you are sloting 4 +20 stats to an armor its not gonna beat that. Also your argument makes no sense melding more than 1 materia is suppose to be better than U/U lol

    If anything they should leave U/U armor none materia and add stat bonus for maxing out the items spiritbond i would like that better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Except every 5 of a pie int or mnd = 1 to the corresponding stat , unless you are sloting 4 +20 stats to an armor its not gonna beat that. Also your argument makes no sense melding more than 1 materia is suppose to be better than U/U lol

    If anything they should leave U/U armor none materia and add stat bonus for maxing out the items spiritbond i would like that better.
    Again...not trying to be rude, but what are you talking about? What your saying would mean that any and ALL int/mnd/pie would be useless if they were not in increments of "5" anything beyond or below an increment of 5 would be pointless, which isn't the case. Each attribute has more functionality than simply "buffing" it's corresponding stat. Vitality does more than just boost hp; Str does more than just boost atk, etc. So, you can simply go for a handful of each attribute and still end up with a much better piece of gear. It's easier to explain if I just show you.

    Revolutionary's Bliaud:

    Defense 112
    Intelligence 5
    Mind 5
    Piety 5
    Magic Accuracy 4
    Magic Evasion 4
    Parry 4


    Felt Robe (Green):

    Defense 99
    MP 54
    Attack Magic Potency 8
    Magic Evasion 8

    Magic Accy 3; Int+7ish; Pie+7ish

    There's 3 Tier II materia (which is NOT hard to do at all) on an easily crafted robe, and it completely dwarfs the Rev. Bliaud. It has 1 less magic accy, but 8 more magic attk potency; it has twice the magic eva; it has 1.5 times the int and piety; and best of all...it has an extra 54 mp. It doesn't have 5 mnd, but that can easily be made up for w/ some healing potency+ materia somewhere else, and a lot more than 13 def can be added to a shield if you use wands for your cnj/thm, so you'd have to be a complete idiot to go for U/U, when you can probably go buy all the mats for the felt i just described and have it made tonight. As for the parry +4...who are we trying to kid; your cnj/thm isn't gonna ever parry s!@$ lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khal_Drogo View Post
    Again...not trying to be rude, but what are you talking about? What your saying would mean that any and ALL int/mnd/pie would be useless if they were not in increments of "5" anything beyond or below an increment of 5 would be pointless, which isn't the case. Each attribute has more functionality than simply "buffing" it's corresponding stat. Vitality does more than just boost hp; Str does more than just boost atk, etc. So, you can simply go for a handful of each attribute and still end up with a much better piece of gear. It's easier to explain if I just show you.

    Revolutionary's Bliaud:

    Defense 112
    Intelligence 5
    Mind 5
    Piety 5
    Magic Accuracy 4
    Magic Evasion 4
    Parry 4


    Felt Robe (Green):

    Defense 99
    MP 54
    Attack Magic Potency 8
    Magic Evasion 8

    Magic Accy 3; Int+7ish; Pie+7ish

    There's 3 Tier II materia (which is NOT hard to do at all) on an easily crafted robe, and it completely dwarfs the Rev. Bliaud. It has 1 less magic accy, but 8 more magic attk potency; it has twice the magic eva; it has 1.5 times the int and piety; and best of all...it has an extra 54 mp. It doesn't have 5 mnd, but that can easily be made up for w/ some healing potency+ materia somewhere else, and a lot more than 13 def can be added to a shield if you use wands for your cnj, so you'd have to be a complete idiot to go for U/U, when you can probably go buy all the mats for the felt i just described and have it made tonight.






    And besides that,
    Like i said thats the rewards for getting 3 materia on there..... With just 1 materia attached the U/U robe is better...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    Like i said thats the rewards for getting 3 materia on there..... With just 1 materia attached the U/U robe is better...
    Once again dude, we're talking about tier II materia....don't forget. That's ridiculous. All it takes is a handful of some of the shittiest inexpensive mats that any jack a@! can get his hands on, and you can completely dominate U/U? That sounds good to you? It is not hard to do 3 tier IIs. I did 2 tier IIIs on lots of stuff already. Not to mention, I was underselling the stats on tier II, just in case I didn't remember how high the tier IIs went before they went to tier III. You might be able to get 5 mnd/int/pie off of tier Is....
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