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    Faliandra's Avatar
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    Lumielle Whisperwind
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Only if you don't know how to do them, otherwise they're a blast.
    this.


    maybe not with a SCH, but AST/WHM is just fine




    On topic: I dont know...to make me wanna kick the tank after ONE failed pull, the tank has to have been beyond horrible.
    Like...literally having his HP melt in 3 seconds. I actually have come across tanks who wanted to pull big and didnt mitigate at all... OR tried to mitigate,but did it the wrong way
    and it was nearly impossible to keep them alive. So either youre one of these.....OR you've just really had some bad luck.
    As a person who sometimes really is a magnet for people who play poorly who then blame the wipes on me (being the healer), I kinda know how it feels.

    I also had a thread saying how people suddenly want me to stop DPSing as a healer. And everyone was like "wow,never happened to me".
    Well, it happened to me again the other day. But thats when I just gladly eat penalty. No use arguing with these people anyway....
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    Last edited by Faliandra; 07-13-2017 at 10:55 PM.

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    Skivvy's Avatar
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    this.


    maybe not with a SCH, but AST/WHM is just fine




    On topic: I dont know...to make me wanna kick the tank after ONE failed pull, the tank has to have been beyond horrible.
    I think I have a higher tolerance for bad players. lol. I'll put up with most everything except for a really horrible attitude. If they're spewing insults and trash talking the group, that's what will do it for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I think I have a higher tolerance for bad players. lol. I'll put up with most everything except for a really horrible attitude. If they're spewing insults and trash talking the group, that's what will do it for me.

    well I just mean to say that....trial and error can happen and is NOT a reason for me to stop doing that big pull. Usually either me or the tank were missing a vital cooldown to make it work.
    Its usually easy to tell whether a trivial thing like this made the wipe happen or whether the tank or healer arent fully aware of what theyre doing.

    But sometimes you can tell within 1 pull what you just got yourself into. Like, a tank who practically did everything wrong.
    And thats where I'd rather eat the penalty or just try to get the tank replaced. Although I really dont usually do that after 1 pull. I wait at least for another 2-3 pulls.
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    Drei Luran
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    Like...literally having his HP melt in 3 seconds. I actually have come across tanks who wanted to pull big and didnt mitigate at all... OR tried to mitigate,but did it the wrong way
    and it was nearly impossible to keep them alive. So either youre one of these.....OR you've just really had some bad luck.
    Is there even a wrong way to pop cds? Mind you I don't main tank and do it sometimes but when I pull large groups I tend to just rotate my cds around to mitigate damage. I never really thought there was a way to do them wrong.
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Cactuar
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    To be fairly honest, big pulls can be done in the first two SB leveling dungeons, but afterwards they begin to hit extremely hard. I mean a double pull is manageable in say, Bardam's Mettle, but only barely, perhaps with higher gear it's more feasible since I only did it with i270, when I should've upgraded to i274.

    Big pulls are a team effort.
    Bardam's Mettle with a SCH last night(complete PUG group as far as I could tell), I had to use all my CDs, including Hallowed Ground, before the first wall. And that was doing small pulls(used HG three more times in there too). Wasn't watching the party list at the point to know if they were DPSing too much, but I think it was the 2nd group that the roaming monster can reach where I had to use HG.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Only if you don't know how to do them, otherwise they're a blast.
    And if you have the right party composition. If I have a BLM + anything I will test the waters with a large pull to begin with(partially to test DPS, partially to test healing).

    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    this.
    maybe not with a SCH, but AST/WHM is just fine
    On topic: I dont know...to make me wanna kick the tank after ONE failed pull, the tank has to have been beyond horrible.
    Bolded: See above...

    Underlined: I've only ever kicked tanks for three things:
    1. Throwing a hissy fit when asked why they prefered one method over another(and refusing to move forward because of it)
    2. DCing/AFKing for long periods of time
    3. Sitting just outside the range of the enemies, still following the group, and not doing anything to help(this took us 20min to agree to kick him because the two others in party with me were from my FC - tank was a random through DF rou)
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    Last edited by Avatre; 07-13-2017 at 11:12 PM.