Scholar Fixes

[simiii]

Did you know there are 3 different dps roles too? Melee, Caster, Ranged (support) themoreyouknow.jpg

I personally think they should stop calling bards and mch supports and just call them ranged dps and make healers be called "supports"

They can still keep mana regen buffs and stuff just like how melee can use goad but their not considered sup

[Xhareem]

It's called the off healer.... you know just like off tanks that dps?

Yeah, the problema is every job classified as "TANK" can both main tank and offtank. But only 2 jobs classified as healers can main heal. Fair? Not for me.

[Docteur_Fluttershy]

The thing i dont get is, sch since ARR was always kinda the "secondary healer", and that didnt bother anyone, in any situation outside sch+sch, the one that would do the most healing would be either the WHM or the diurnal AST.

What completely threw away that is that noct AST can do the same,put shields of average better potency for less cost.
Shielding in FFXIV was always counterbalanced by either poor healing or extreme mana cost, which we have now adloquium and succor as example, or the very poor stoneskin of 3.x (which did 10% life while costing more than cure II).

Let's remember back at 3.0 that stoneskin was nerfed because "18% life was too much" back when the cost was between cure II and adloquium, and now we have AST throwing 10-12k shields when not crit and 20-25k crit while crit, both unbuff and with a low mana cost, which does nearly 25-50% of a tank health (40k tank health with str 270,take 20-40% for 50k hp tanks, and same for war cause +30% hp goes with +30% healing) and more than 70% on dps (+- 35k hp).


I'm not ranting against the shields, i'm just saying that Noct AST goes against the path the "shielder healer" had since 2.0, and is now overshadowing SCH the same way it has overshadowed WHM since 3.4.

What sch need atm on the healing department is that noct AST healing power get looked at and put at the same mana efficiency. (and since AST has better shield potency, the mana cost has to be changed accordingly, meaning aspected benefic would have to cost nearly 3k mp, or something like that).
(And no, i'm not anti-AST, in fact i'm a main whm playing AST and still waiting for 4.05 to see what me and my cohealer will play. Still hoping lillies/confession can do something usefull)

edit: just red the post above mine, what you say goes in the way of what i'm saying, Noct AST shouldnt have the healing potency necessary to main heal the same way that diurnal AST has, since both are the reflection of WHM/SCH. From my pov SCH and nocturnal AST have the ability to protect the players from mechanics that hits (too) hard, and have lower healing capacity to reflect that, while WHM and diurnal AST (mostly WHM since ast still have CU and cards) have higher healing potency through regen but cannot protect from high damaging mechanics.

[Spiroglyph]

I was running with tanks that were chain pulling the i300 dungeons when I was still in i290 gear. It's a small challenge yeah but sch since release has always been the worst dungeon healer due to our bad aoe, and yes they made it even worse lol

If a majority of your end game time is going to be focused on dungeons and you wanted to do them fast and efficiently it was always recommended to level WHM

Strangely enough my gripe with SCH DPS at the moment is our lack of miasma II :P it'd be nice to be able to alternate between this and shadow flare as a minor form of mitigation (by applying a debuff on the mobs) - I mean, I was as annoyed at bane changes as much as the next scholar, but it's not like this on its own is a deal breaker. As you said our DPS is still nice, even if slightly lower than HW sch.

SCH is not NOT viable in dungeons, it's just... our skills could use some tweaking - right now it feels like a good portion of the skills you use the most in 4-mans conflicts in some manner with the rest of your toolkit... little to no coherency or synergy.

We don't need Physick II, spammable succor or on-demand Indom, personally I think our aoe skills are the one thing that doesn't need (much) change. Perhaps lowering the costs of shields or a slight increase in potency, but it's not bad. Succor was never meant to be spammable anyway.

SCH doesn't need to be as good at buffing the rest of the team as AST, and it doesn't need all the regen skills WHM can bring - but I do feel that our mitigation abilities took a HUGE (kind of unawarranted) hit, or you simply can't even make use of them because you're gonna need to lustrate soon.

[simiii]

Yeah, the problema is every job classified as "TANK" can both main tank and offtank. But only 2 jobs classified as healers can main heal. Fair? Not for me.

Your telling me a 3.0 can solo heal rav but a sch can't solo heal lakshimi?

[Supersun]

Overhealing was in fact filtered out for the numbers I was looking at and the ones that I posted

[Ayer2015]

This would be a ridiculously large buff to the job.

Personalty I think they should just remove the CD from Emergency Tactics, make Excogitation an indefinite duration, and have the fairy auto resummon after Dissipation's effect ends. Small changes that would have a large effect on the job.

[RajaVamberaux]

Y'all seriously need to calm down. Scholar is still in a great position with awesome gameplay and a secure spot. Most of these suggestions are either downright terrible or completely broken beyond anything current healers can do (a damage buff attached to Embrace?? please...)

If you're having trouble healing, dpsing, or doing dungeons with Scholar, either you or your tank need to git gud, and I'm highly questioning whether many of you understand the meaning of ABC.

This would be a ridiculously large buff to the job.

Personalty I think they should just remove the CD from Emergency Tactics, make Excogitation an indefinite duration, and have the fairy auto resummon after Dissipation's effect ends. Small changes that would have a large effect on the job.

This person knows what they're talking about.
Personally, I'd like to see a few minimal buffs to Scholar with 4.05:

Excogitation: Make the heal go off at the end of the 30s OR extend the duration to 60s
Fey Union: Small 20 to 50 potency increase and shorter fairy animation on start-up
Ruin II: Increased potency by 20 (to 120 over Ruin's 100)

One thing I'd love to have but probably not getting:

Dissipation: Resummons fairy when duration ends.

[Rawrz]

Dissipation: Resummons fairy when duration ends.

I really want Dissipation to stop being a punishment. I want it to be a true choice. Instead of do you want 3 aetherflow and no fairy for 30 seconds, to become do you want 3 aetherflow at the cost of resummoning your fairy?

It's horrendous when a "buff" to your level 60 hw capstone skill would be to REDUCE its duration.

Boiling it down one step farther, i only think SCH need 3 changes to become fluid and better this expansion.

Broil: cast time reduced to 1.5 or 2 seconds, recast remains 2.5. This allows more weaving. The animation would also match this.

Break: cast time 2 seconds. Recast 2.5. MP cost equal to 1.33x Broil II. Deals unaspected damage with a potency of 65-80 to target and all nearby targets.
Additional Effect: Heavy +20%
Duration: 15s

Dissipation: Orders your pet away while granting you a full Aetherflow stack.
Also grants a buff that increases healing magic potency by 20%. Your next Summon or Summon II is instant cast. Buff ends after 30 seconds or when your next Summon or Summon II is cast. Aetherflow spent while in dissipation will fill fairy gauge at a rate of 20 instead of 10. Using aetherflow outside of a fairy summoned or dissipation will have no effect on the gauge..


What do these changes address?

Fixes an SCHs clipping on single target and AoE.
Gives SCH an AoE that's spammable again.
Allows SCH to fairy swap and not be punished for more than the mp cost for wanting to effectively do so, while creating synergy between the level 60 and 70 skills.

[simiii]

Most of these suggestions are either downright terrible or completely broken beyond anything current healers can do (a damage buff attached to Embrace?? please...)

If your talking about my comment you should re read it...
Pretty sure I suggested a damage REDUCTION buff or HEALING POTENCY INCREASE on embrace if your not then carry on