CNJ = WHM and THM = BLM

[Hartigan_Redsail]

I loooooled

[Jinko]

Yes its hard because a WHM will have all of the CON spells but none of the THM spells. Also BLM will share lvls with THM. and CON will share lvls with WHM.

So it pretty much is 1:1 after you get the sub job lvled. (15 CON or 15 THM)

And when you get to 40 con you probably need to be 20 thm to get the nexy quest and 50/25, so its not quite as black and white as you make it appear .. ooohh see what i did there !

There is nothing saying that a blm can't use ancient magic and spells above level 25 though, infact it make more sense that a THM50/CNJ50 would be more powerful than a THM50/CNJ25.

[Lerris]

So the elemental talkers deal with life energies, and followers of a god of life and death deal with elemental energies?

That'd be fine, I just don't want them totally screwing over the lore by doing something so nonsensical as making the elemental people not use elemental magic. It'd be like making archer no longer use bows, and having them use swords instead now.

Not quite. What I wanted was for White Mage to fit within the lore and the most obvious place for that is within the Milvaneth Sacrarium, which is officially Life-worshiping Thaumaturge territory. Of course with a second class at Rank 15 needed to unlock each job (and we don't know which is which yet, although we can make some educated guesses), this is still possible.

It fitting is what mattered to me, and I saw THM as a better fit, although I freely acknowledged it was not the only option over the last few months. I always knew it could go either way.

I don't know how many times i have to say this but, The guild players joins is not the one you are referring to.....you know they join the death one.

I had hoped ( and still do hope ) that the jobs get their own guilds. Milvaneth Sacrarium is a good choice for a WHM guild location.
The lore leads to that, but, they are in a position to change the lore to match the game systems.

[Jinko]

I had hoped ( and still do hope ) that the jobs get their own guilds. Milvaneth Sacrarium is a good choice for a WHM guild location.
The lore leads to that, but, they are in a position to change the lore to match the game systems.

If they do this there are guna be 100's of guilds, I would rather see the existing guilds have specialist trainers/quest givers.

[DNO]

And when you get to 40 con you probably need to be 20 thm to get the nexy quest and 50/25, so its not quite as black and white as you make it appear .. ooohh see what i did there !

There is nothing saying that a blm can't use ancient magic and spells above level 25 though, infact it make more sense that a THM50/CNJ50 would be more powerful than a THM50/CNJ25.

First off im going off of what was said. so your making things up....

Also the sub job is a quest requirement to get the job. If you get xp on CON your WHM gets the same xp.
which means your wrong. All you have to do is read. its been stated before.

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[DNO]

Is it mentioned somewhere that the advanced jobs will only get abilities/spells from the primary class?

It just seems odd to me that they would have a secondary requirement without using things from that secondary class.

Perhaps, for example, Paladin, being GLD/MRD will draw Defender from Marauder, and for White Mage, being CON/THM, will draw Banish and Dia from Thaumaturge.

You're probably right in so far that it's mostly a one-to-one correlation from primary class to advanced job (seeing as it's true that the level of the job will be the level of the primary class), but it just seems peculiar to me that they would have a secondary requirement without doing anything with it.

I almost feel like they have the secondary requirement to circumvent lore to some extent. But, as with most things, only time will tell.

I am right and the proof is what WAS said. If you lvl MRD your WAR is the SAME lvl. WAR is MRD. they share abilitles and WAR gets its own as well plus cross class skills are blocked.


This is common knowledge its all be stated.

[Ganvire]

Am I the only one who isn't surprised at this choice? We're talking the difference between a class who excels at curing versus a class that is a sadomasochist in a broad sense of the term.

Unless that's your thing. No judgement here.

[Jinko]

First off im going off of what was said. so your making things up....

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You see my first paragraph where I use the word probably ?

Don't try to smart, only smart people can do that.

[Wynn]

Am I the only one who isn't surprised at this choice? We're talking the difference between a class who excels at curing versus a class that is a sadomasochist in a broad sense of the term.

Unless that's your thing. No judgement here.

Conjurer only recently started to excel at healing due to deliberate changes by the new regime. Before that, THM was the king of heals.

[Ganvire]

Conjurer only recently started to excel at healing due to deliberate changes by the new regime. Before that, THM was the king of heals.

Ah, yes, I do remember that. Such a weird system.