CNJ = WHM and THM = BLM

[Fated]

THM leaned towards WHM more than CNJ and CNJ leaned towards BLM more than THM but neither classes seem proper fits for those specialized roles.

Like someone else said, THM seems more of a Red Mage and CNJ seems more like a Scholar. But hey, we aren't up to combo jobs yet.

[Dreamer]

Protip: Black Mage DOES NOT mean elementalist.

Once you get rid of that mindset, the relationships are easy to see. If you play through the CONJ and THM story quests, you'll see that the conj are essentially elemental worshiping priests, while the thm are more.... hitman-esque.

[Bowen]

Protip: Black Mage DOES NOT mean elementalist.

Once you get rid of that mindset, the relationships are easy to see. If you play through the CONJ and THM story quests, you'll see that the conj are essentially elemental worshiping priests, while the thm are more.... hitman-esque.

Wait a moment isn't CNJs french name "Élémentaliste"?
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[Coglin]

Wait a moment isn't CNJs french name "Élémentaliste"?
. . .

So?

Look at its japanese name.

[Bowen]

So?

Look at its japanese name.

Illusionist?. . . I still don't see how Illusionist/Elementalist = WHM when Miracle Worker = BLM. . .

[Betelgeuzah]

Illusionist?. . . I still don't see how Illusionist/Elementalist = WHM when Miracle Worker = BLM. . .

Basically every single one of THM's spells aside from dia and banish scream Black Mage. Whatever history the word thaumaturgy has is not relevant considering it has not been relevant until now either.

In fact, this game would be much better off if the elemental nukes were removed completely or combined together. The game needs focused actions that have always a use, preferably multidimensional at that. The franchise traditions are crippling it's evolution into something much better. CNJ can have elemental nukes that have nothing to do with Black Magic of past FF's and XIV's BLM does not 'need' elemental nukes either.

[Coglin]

Illusionist?. . . I still don't see how Illusionist/Elementalist = WHM when Miracle Worker = BLM. . .

LMAO thats not even close, where did you come up with that ?

[Buuul]

A good mage in this game has both CON and THM at level 50 right now. End of story. Which class turns into which job is a non-issue if you take mage seriously.

[RemVye]

A good mage in this game has both CON and THM at level 50 right now. End of story. Which class turns into which job is a non-issue if you take mage seriously.

inb4 "BUT BUT BUT I DON' WAHHNAHH LEVEL ANYTHING I DON WAAHHHNAHHH LEVEL *WAHHHH WAHHHH*"

[Fourtoes]

A good mage in this game has both CON and THM at level 50 right now. End of story. Which class turns into which job is a non-issue if you take mage seriously.

This! Why gimp yourself purposely? THM has amazing spells past 40, likewise with CON. Stop being lazy and benefit yourself more by obtaining free spells through grinding. At least you don't need to pay for spells...