CNJ = WHM and THM = BLM

[Burn]

its not so surprising, in the quests for CONJ they kind of sound like priests with the elementals tied in. I don't think its going to be hard for them to retcon a few things to make it fit 100%.

[Teakwood]

Yeah, having actually done the Thaumaturge class quests now, it's a lot easier to accept as BLM. >_>

(Plus, as I mentioned I -believe- on this thread, there's no guarantee the Thaumaturge story will actually be connected at all to the Black Mage story.)

[Vequi]

Well to go off in a different direction. I always saw Conjurer as a Scholar without the Grimoires/Stratagems and Thaumaturge as a Red Mage. XD

I honestly don't care which gets BLM and which gets WHM since I planned to level both to learn all the magic spells.

[Orophin]

Time to level my THM.

[Zezlar]

Any Final Fantasy fan would have been able to tell that's what was going to happen.

[Inaaca]

Any Final Fantasy fan would have been able to tell that's what was going to happen.

Wait.. The same Final Fantasy fans that have come to know BLMs as elemental nukers with pointy hats?

The two classes are vague right now, Yoshi even said so from the start. It's why we needed the concrete answer we finally got.

[Zezlar]

Wait.. The same Final Fantasy fans that have come to know BLMs as elemental nukers with pointy hats?

The two classes are vague right now, Yoshi even said so from the start. It's why we needed the concrete answer we finally got.

Yeah the abilities are very spread out. That's because of the previous dev teams ideas. However if one were to really think about it THM looks a lot more like a BLM than CNJ does. Also CNJ gets Cure.

So my guess is that in 1.20 some of the abilities that CNJ has now (mainly the elemental nuke spells) may be taken away and be replaced with more of a light based set of spells.

[Inaaca]

Yeah the abilities are very spread out. That's because of the previous dev teams ideas. However if one were to really think about it THM looks a lot more like a BLM than CNJ does. Also CNJ gets Cure.

So my guess is that in 1.20 some of the abilities that CNJ has now (mainly the elemental nuke spells) may be taken away and be replaced with more of a light based set of spells.

Yes, there's evidence in both directions. That's what makes it vague, and why changes are needed.

It shouldn't be hard to see why someone could see one way or the other if one were to actually look closely at both sides of the argument.

[Wynn]

It shouldn't be hard to see why someone could see one way or the other if one were to actually look closely at both sides of the argument.

This is totally true. You really could build a good argument for either.

What I really would like to see though is a complete change of the classes because it is going to be very confusing for new players. We will see what SE has in store. I doubt they are just going to paste on the jobs without a good explanation as to why they can unlock what they can unlock.

[MartaDemireux]

However if one were to really think about it THM looks a lot more like a BLM than CNJ does.

Not sure if you meant literally looks but if so I disagree. THM's in the THM guild are decked out in cowls and metal scepters - White Mages wear hooded robes and traditionally wield metal hammers. CNJ's in the CNJ guild wear robes and pointed hats with sagging points and wield wooden staves - Black Mages wear robes with pointed hats, sometimes with sagging points and wield wooden staves. With that in mind, the new cowl's added into the game support healing magic + while the sagging pointed hats and robes combo support magic attack.