As a new player, running through the Praetorium dungeon was the worst

[Ransu]

Whenever I do main scenario roulette I always tell new players to not worry about it and just watch the cutscenes. The boss fights are killed so fast now that you're not missing much. Just enjoy the cutscenes.

[teruk]

The times I've ran the Msq roulette's nobody has said anything to the sprouts about watching CS with the runs I've queued for we would just go ahead and let the sprout watch them I'm not gonna say anything to a sprout for wanting to watch them and experience it for the first time

[Indefiinable]

While I sympathise with the op I am afraid I can not agree. Sadly. The only way new players can get through old content is to have old players continuously re run it. Those old players have run that dungeon hundreds of times and simply do not want to have to wait the extra 10 mins for 1 or 2 people to watch a scene that they can watch, at their leisure, in and inn room or fc house and quite frankly it is unreasonable to ask 7 other people to wait on you

[Bourne_Endeavor]

This is a problem that only happens on NA/EU. You can draw any conclusions you want about it, but before you do (and if you're old enough) you should look back in time a little bit to see if you notice any changes in people's mentality over the years.

I find this incredibly unlikely, and just another attempt to paint JP as wonderful. All regions have their respective biases. A fun little factoid is JP players think the devs cater to NA/EU over them whereas the exact opposite sentiment is seen on here.

Even if I take your statement at face value. So? We aren't JP nor will people abruptly change because you or anyone else thinks it's unfair new players cannot watch cut scenes and participate in the boss fights for these two specific dungeons. I wager most people haven't watched the cut scenes if they queued into DF because people were speed running Prae and CM a couple weeks after ARR released. Should the devs fix it? Absolutely. Even a simple warning before you queue would at least give new players an opportunity to put up a PF. But demanding people should let them watch cut scenes will amount to nothing. It isn't going to happen as most people don't want to waste 40+ minutes.

[Charlayy]

They are rude and selfish. If they don't want to let the sprouts watch the cutscenes, then they shouldn't do the roulette. The only reason the roulettes exist is so new players can play the content.

Goes both ways. Dont want to skip the cut scenes then dont do the roulette.

[Charlayy]

Sure, you may not have blamed them specifically, but you did imply they were rude and selfish. MSQ roulette is a situation where you scratch my back, and I'll scratch yours. New players, despite what you think, would be suffering from far longer queues to accomplish anything. Finding 8 people who want to spend an hour in a dungeon that is from years ago is going to be slim. So yes, the roulette gets people in quickly to complete the MSQ while the 'helpers' get some tomes or quick exp.

Also, unrelated to the current reply, but the thread in general:

Cute little sprout getting snippy.


The CM/Prae situation is not ideal, but that's why SE changed their evil ways in later dungeon.

Should have just vote kicked like we mostly do.

[Rawrrior]

Jeeze. People still pulling this crap? It would tick me off when they pulled the "just skip it, you can watch it at the inn" line. Uh excuse me? I have every right to watch cutscenes to a game i pay monthly for as you do to skip them and be in a firey bum rush. I rememeber people doing this to be back when ARR released. You know what i did?

I ignored them.

Best part of ignoring them?

I was their healer.
>____>; keep on telling me to skip my cutscenes and bum rush into packs of mobs! Cause if ya do, this kitty ain't gonna heal yer arse. Don't be a douche.

Aanyways.. May the rest of your experience in the game be douche-free! Not everyone in dungeons are their butts on fire like those people.

[BigRed5392]

I did Castrum Meridianum and The Praetorium back to back in Undersized party mode, with the cut scenes on, and not clicking through any of the dialog (auto advance):

Castrum Meridianum
Exact time: 44:33 (from Instance start to Exit), Timestamp 41:48

The Praetorium
Exact time: 62:16 (from Instance start to Exit), Timestamp 58:08
https://youtu.be/EuTNvt5jyVw

So to go back to the point of the original post, In order to watch all the cut scenes, it does in fact take twice as long for the Praetorium.

Also, got pinned by Nero on that run, which meant that I had to defeat him using Aero II, which probably dragged it out another minute.

auto adance doesn't make text faster, i tested it and i read faster then auto advance advances.

[BigRed5392]

Should have just vote kicked like we mostly do.

vote kick who? the new comer for being upset?

i recall when mmo put new players first. then WoW happen. No one warns people of this happening. Which sucks.

[Dualgunner]

Jeeze. People still pulling this crap? It would tick me off when they pulled the "just skip it, you can watch it at the inn" line. Uh excuse me? I have every right to watch cutscenes to a game i pay monthly for as you do to skip them and be in a firey bum rush. I rememeber people doing this to be back when ARR released. You know what i did?

I ignored them.

Best part of ignoring them?

I was their healer.
>____>; keep on telling me to skip my cutscenes and bum rush into packs of mobs! Cause if ya do, this kitty ain't gonna heal yer arse. Don't be a douche.

Aanyways.. May the rest of your experience in the game be douche-free! Not everyone in dungeons are their butts on fire like those people.

That'd be a stronger deterrent if you needed two healers anymore. D: