Some interesting numbers on 4.0 BLM

[soslinky]

Good God, I made a huge mistake. I left the targets at 3 thanks to last night's AOE calculations. Jesus Christ.

Yup. You were right. 4.0 rotation is shit.

4.0 = 162.96
3.0 = 162.09 (missed one foul due to respawn timer not lining up)

This is depressing.

On a brighter note, bringing Fire4 potency back to 280 yielded in 4.0 being higher PPS by a WHOPPING ONE POINT THIRTY-FIVE [1.35] points.

Edit:
Fun fact: If you look at the top parses then make your way down, the DPS is inversely proportional to the number of B4s they cast. Less B4s=More DPS

[Galvuu]

Good God, I made a huge mistake. I left the targets at 3 thanks to last night's AOE calculations. Jesus Christ.

Yup. You were right. 4.0 rotation is shit.

4.0 = 162.96
3.0 = 162.09 (missed one foul due to respawn timer not lining up)

This is depressing.

On a brighter note, bringing Fire4 potency back to 280 yielded in 4.0 being higher PPS by a WHOPPING ONE POINT THIRTY-FIVE [1.35] points.

It's ok. We can be sad together, my fellow Mhachi friend qq
Glad we sorted that out though
Shantotto screams in her tomb, SE. Screams of anger.

[soslinky]

Moving forward, what do you think this means for spellspeed stacking? Cause if I can fit everything thanks to the 3.0 rotation on the new AF/UI timer then what's the point? Lowering your SpS in exchange for more DH/Crit might even be more beneficial for Foul since its timing is rather off for the 3.0 rotation.

[AlphaSonic]

It's ok. We can be sad together, my fellow Mhachi friend qq
Glad we sorted that out though
Shantotto screams in her tomb, SE. Screams of anger.

Maybe Umbral Hearts should be increased up to 5 or 7? And maybe make also that 1 Umbral Heart remove the mana cost and cast time of Thunder III (but it doesn't apply the potency boost like thundercloud proc).

[Galvuu]

Maybe Umbral Hearts should be increased up to 5 or 7? And maybe make also that 1 Umbral Heart remove the mana cost and cast time of Thunder III (but it doesn't apply the potency boost like thundercloud proc).

I've been chewing over this in my head for a few days, so I'll edit the post with a section with potential solutions, and explain what they address and why would they fix it.
Doing it now.

[Sarynth]

So after reading about this 3.x rotation > 4.0 rotation I did the sky stone sea for Lakshmi to see how it turned out and.... (Mind you my gear is setup for RDM so only had 895 spell speed, 1700 crit and 1400ish Direct hit.)


4.x rotation:


3.x rotation:

[soslinky]

snip

At that SpS, how many procs were you able to fit within one AF window? Did foul line up at umbral ice every time? I'm thinking of jumping ship and dropping some SpS in favor of DH/Crit.

[RulerOfPotaoes]

You can't buff Foul because of SAM damage... it would render SMN's Akh Morn useless and SMN AoE damage got gutted so much that now BLM does better aoe damage. If anything Foul potency should be nerfed or if kept at the same potency then Akh Morn should be buffed.

[Kabooa]

Thank you for this. I'm heading to SSS to first do a few control attempts at UH and then a few dropping it after the opener to see for myself.

Science!

[Kabooa]

Stat Card
http://imgur.com/a/exBuV

Test Results: Susanoo Time Remaining
Umbral Heart in all the things:
0 - Famine scenario, very few TCloud procs
9 - Had a Tcloud for just about every thunder, though not always lining up in Ice
2 - Tclouds were hit or miss for timing, had a few.

Umbral Heart in only opener
4 - Few TCloud procs
9 - Fair amount of TClouds
12 - Fair amount of Tclouds, most lined up in ice

Foul: Doesn't always line up, but inconsequential as never at risk of overlap
Thunder: Omitting Blizz4 allowed pretty seamless Thunder filler, both MP wise and time wise.