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  1. #91
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    LunaFaye's Avatar
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    Luna Faye
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    Leviathan
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    Weaver Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    I see player in need for healer regularly, and I have seen it pop for DPS on hests and trials often. It's just not as common as tanks.
    It's different by data center, the time you play, however the bonus (cracked cluster) only applies currently to leveling roulette. Hence the OP probably complaining since we all know, that heals and tanks are mostly the ones in "need" at nearly any time of the day/night, for that roulette. I do enjoy my clusters tho
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  2. #92
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    Zojha's Avatar
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Gladiator Lv 1
    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    [...], maybe, just maybe if you bothered to play one, youd understand the gripes and reasons they have to keep boosting the "please queue in with randos" reward
    You mean tanking as such being an un-fun chore?

    I did level all three tanks to 60 in HW via duty roulettes on this character and I had a dedicated DRK tank alt on top during HW to run experts and normal raids with. From that, the only thing I can think of is tanking as such. It's boring - it requires the brainpower of a dead tuna. The only remotely exciting things about it are huge door-to-door pulls where you actually need to use your cooldowns for once and stance dancing and SE keeps nerfing both.

    People often name abusive DPS players as reason but honestly? I've never met them. Not even once. I've seen TONS of people that are terrible at their job, healers, DPS and tanks alike, but verbally, my runs have been mostly quiet. Either I'm just extremely lucky, or people are causing the drama themselves somehow.
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  3. #93
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    You mean tanking as such being an un-fun chore?
    Care to explain how tanking is a chore?

    You said the same thing about tanking and healing another thread yet there are peopke, myself included, who enjoy healing. There are those who enjoy tanking... So how can you claim it's a chore just because you don't like it?
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  4. #94
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    Adire's Avatar
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    Erin Grey
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    Mateus
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Care to explain how tanking is a chore?

    You said the same thing about tanking and healing another thread yet there are peopke, myself included, who enjoy healing. There are those who enjoy tanking... So how can you claim it's a chore just because you don't like it?
    There are people who are naturally inclined to be tanks and healers, but there are also people like myself who are DPS players at heart but are still willing to tank and/or heal if it's engaging and rewarding enough. I enjoy challenging myself to properly perform the role of tank or healer and still put out decent damage.

    That seems to be falling out of favor in the dev team though, which is making tanking and healing feel more like a chore to people who were open to doing it before but did not prefer it.
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  5. #95
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    Syfurion's Avatar
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    Vahette Lauclaire
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    Lamia
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    There are people who are naturally inclined to be tanks and healers, but there are also people like myself who are DPS players at heart but are still willing to tank and/or heal if it's engaging and rewarding enough. I enjoy challenging myself to properly perform the role of tank or healer and still put out decent damage.

    That seems to be falling out of favor in the dev team though, which is making tanking and healing feel more like a chore to people who were open to doing it before but did not prefer it.
    I would count myself as one of those, although I would argue for different reasons. I actually find tanking more engaging that DPS by a fairly large margin, but have issues with actually convincing myself to do it, out of worry I'll screw it up, and as such usually fall back to DPSing because I then fill a less critical role, and don't get so worked up about it.

    Healing, on the other hand, is just a whole lotta nope for me. I panic way to easy when shit hits the fan.
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    Last edited by Syfurion; 07-09-2017 at 11:44 PM. Reason: 1k character limit why?

  6. #96
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    Gravton's Avatar
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    Gravton Pentest
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Care to explain how tanking is a chore?

    You said the same thing about tanking and healing another thread yet there are peopke, myself included, who enjoy healing. There are those who enjoy tanking... So how can you claim it's a chore just because you don't like it?
    Hahaha that's like me saying "how can you claim it's fun when I don't like it"..it's her personal opinion..which are welcome on forums.
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  7. #97
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    Usalia Killia
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    Ye give all to dps. New jobs and all.-_-;
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  8. #98
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravton View Post
    Hahaha that's like me saying "how can you claim it's fun when I don't like it"..it's her personal opinion..which are welcome on forums.
    Yes, but she didn't say "it's a chore to me" or "I find it to be a chore", both times she's said it has been a "it/they are chores". I don't care what other people's opinions are. We all have our own, but to make such a blanket statement is just... I don't want to say inconsiderate... more like shows a lack ofnundertaanding why people would like those roles. Instead she writes them of in a seemingly "less than" fashion.
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  9. #99
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    AkashiXI's Avatar
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    Akashi Mousai
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    Archer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post

    People often name abusive DPS players as reason but honestly? I've never met them. Not even once. I've seen TONS of people that are terrible at their job, healers, DPS and tanks alike, but verbally, my runs have been mostly quiet. Either I'm just extremely lucky, or people are causing the drama themselves somehow.
    You're lucky. Currently leveling Paladin through roulettes and dungeons and the level of impatience from DPS is outstanding. I've had three dungeons yesterday (out of 6) where the DPS ran in front, full sprint, attacking the first set of mobs. Granted I'm a fast player that does big trash pulls, but one instance was before the healer casted protect, and the other was when a healer afk'd. It won't deter me from leveling my Paladin, I just find it annoying. Still, free cracked clusters > annoyance any day.
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  10. #100
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    Gravton Pentest
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    Diabolos
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Yes, but she didn't say "it's a chore to me" or "I find it to be a chore", both times she's said it has been a "it/they are chores". I don't care what other people's opinions are. We all have our own, but to make such a blanket statement is just... I don't want to say inconsiderate... more like shows a lack ofnundertaanding why people would like those roles. Instead she writes them of in a seemingly "less than" fashion.
    Well since it is a post, from a person, expressing a thought....most people don't have to preface that with an "I" or "Me". It's clearly an opinion and not a fact. Like me saying "FFxiv is a great game." It's clearly an opinion and "I think" isn't required.
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    Last edited by Gravton; 07-10-2017 at 12:09 AM.

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