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    Raikai's Avatar
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90

    Scaling mechanics

    Right. I'm a new player, and now I'm into SB content...

    I just realized a huge pet peeve when it comes to the level scaling in dungeons or FATEs.

    It scales you completely to the point you unlearn spells! Does anyone knows the reasoning for this?

    Why we can't just be scaled down in a power level and keep all of our current abilities?

    It's awful to be scaled down to Satasha and have like... 1 button to press. I realize we'd be OP to those low level dungeons if we have all of our arsenal avaliable. Well, just make stuff tougher if that's the case, no?
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    Bacent's Avatar
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I'd rather them just keep everything how it is with Level Sync
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    Faliandra's Avatar
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    Lumielle Whisperwind
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    Ragnarok
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    im kinda guessing its to ensure that actual low level players who dont get unsynched arent at disadvantage.

    just imagine everyone being freely able to use every skill...it would make a lot of people think of the lowbie person as a burden/inconvenience....because they'd obviously be the worst player in that scenario.
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Now, imagine you are a fresh lvl 15 gladiator, doing your first dungeon. Mobs now hit hard as hell, because there are 3 lvl 70s in your first dungeon run. You also can't keep hate, because they have access to their full rotations and you have fast blade, savage blade, and flash.

    You now think you are bad, and get discouraged. They don't help by running ahead and killing things because they now know they can take hits better than you.
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Tonberry
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    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Now, imagine you are a fresh lvl 15 gladiator, doing your first dungeon. Mobs now hit hard as hell, because there are 3 lvl 70s in your first dungeon run. You also can't keep hate, because they have access to their full rotations and you have fast blade, savage blade, and flash.

    You now think you are bad, and get discouraged. They don't help by running ahead and killing things because they now know they can take hits better than you.
    Absolutely.
    Besides, we do have a system that scales abilities down, but at lvl 17 you don't know JOB abilities because you are too low.
    Re running old content is a 'memory' lore wise and you didn't know Holy etc at lvl 35.

    Personally I find it refreshing to have to adjust my rotations every now and again with a little Lvl sync.
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    phishstix's Avatar
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    Sarnai Oronir
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    Absolutely.
    Besides, we do have a system that scales abilities down, but at lvl 17 you don't know JOB abilities because you are too low.
    Re running old content is a 'memory' lore wise and you didn't know Holy etc at lvl 35.

    Personally I find it refreshing to have to adjust my rotations every now and again with a little Lvl sync.
    All I can think of now is talking to a group of leafs about that time I ran sastasha and since I don't remember the people I went with at the time I just replace them with the leafs in my mind.
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    Valinis's Avatar
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    Miuna Shiodome
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Faliandra View Post
    im kinda guessing its to ensure that actual low level players who dont get unsynched arent at disadvantage.

    just imagine everyone being freely able to use every skill...it would make a lot of people think of the lowbie person as a burden/inconvenience....because they'd obviously be the worst player in that scenario.
    Who cares about a new player having low dps, Satasha takes 15mins. At least it wouldn't be super boring for all the people who have done it 100 times.
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    FMElan's Avatar
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    Sophia Dirschelle
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    Who cares about a new player having low dps, Satasha takes 15mins. At least it wouldn't be super boring for all the people who have done it 100 times.
    Indeed. Screw that new player for not starting when you did. They don't deserve a chance to learn how to properly play their jobs, because you've done the dungeon 100 times already. What selfish jerks they are.
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  9. #9
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    Miuna Shiodome
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    Tonberry
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by FMElan View Post
    Indeed. Screw that new player for not starting when you did. They don't deserve a chance to learn how to properly play their jobs, because you've done the dungeon 100 times already. What selfish jerks they are.
    Excuse me? How does me having all of my abilities prevent them from learning their class? Why make it more boring to veterans than it has to be?
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valinis View Post
    Excuse me? How does me having all of my abilities prevent them from learning their class? Why make it more boring to veterans than it has to be?
    Try completing a lvl 70 dungeon as pld without shield oath on and only with savage blade, fast blade, and flash. See how that goes for ya.

    Now flip that, as a new player tanking sastasha against DPs with their full kit.

    Its already hard enough for new tanks to hold hate against sync'd players, and this would make it worse lol.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 07-09-2017 at 12:13 PM.

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