Easiest and hardest Stormblood DPS?

[Paolito]

I main Bard now because of the changes and I gotta say it's super fun but a bit hectic at times. Maybe just for me though lol, but I find myself forgetting about something when I'm in a new fight or when things get a bit hectic like forgetting to refresh my dots or forgetting that I have to have a song up 100% of the time because they're usefull now, also have foe's up when possible and battle voice, pick the right situation to pop troubadour! Straighter arrow proc for Refulgent Arrow! Oh shit Pitch Perfect with 3 stacks! Wait Sidewinderrr!! Yeah we definitely have a lot of things going on. On top of that we have class skills, using Palisaide on tank when a tank buster comes on. TP or Mp refresh when needed. Definitely harder than before but more satisfying! I have 70 Sam and 69 Monk so I can only compare to those other classes but it is the hardest one I have so far imo.

[aeoncs]

Pointless thread with almost everyone naming their main job as the hardest and/or one of the two new jobs as the easiest, despite only having played 1-2 jobs at 70, let alone in seriously challenging content which isn't even available yet. Most people also don't know the difference between mechanically frustrating and challenging/difficult gameplay.

[Greedalox]

Pointless thread with almost everyone naming their main job as the hardest and/or one of the two new jobs as the easiest, despite only having played 1-2 jobs at 70, let alone in seriously challenging content which isn't even available yet. Most people also don't know the difference between mechanically frustrating and challenging/difficult gameplay.

Somethin' on your mind, Champ?

Every thread is useless short of maybe a few class dedicated ones as a resource of getting better.

[aeoncs]

Somethin' on your mind, Champ?

Every thread is useless short of maybe a few class dedicated ones as a resource of getting better.

As useless as your post? I wonder. Also, the exchange of opinions is far from useless as long as said opinions have actual merit; that is, if you aren't a solipsist.

And Champ? Really? Who are you? A mid-40s small-town dad?

[Greedalox]

As useless as your post?

Ironic?

And Champ? Really? Who are you? A mid-40s small-town dad?

Yes.

Point being that these forums are nothing but discussion where nothing will happen from it. All bark and very little bite. People talking among themselves is benign, just like everything else on these forums. Short of Class Specific threads as a means of resources, this thread is about as useless as our replies in it and that's okay because that's what gaming forums are for. You're not nearly as edgy as you think you are by calling it useless.

Let people have their fun and measure their e-peen without you raining on their parade and acting like you're SOOO above it all.

[Gallus]

Easy - RDM, SAM and MNK

Middle Ground - NIN, BRD and BLM

Hard - DRG, SMN and MCH

[Leonus]

Pointless thread
...Most people also don't know the difference between mechanically frustrating and challenging/difficult gameplay.

I know you said more that what I quoted but this I right on the money.

A lot of people do exactly this. Mechanically frustrating is not a 1:1 comparison of difficulty and neither is a abundance of choice.

[Oscura]

Pointless thread with almost everyone naming their main job as the hardest and/or one of the two new jobs as the easiest, despite only having played 1-2 jobs at 70, let alone in seriously challenging content which isn't even available yet. Most people also don't know the difference between mechanically frustrating and challenging/difficult gameplay.

Oh look. Another Samurai player getting salty that his class is being called easy.

Jesus christ.

Edit: Also, to imply mechanically frustrating and challenging/difficult gameplay are mutually exclusive is absolutely ridiculous. Some of the most popular games known for their "difficulty" are simultaneously mechanically frustrating. I will reiterate this again. Stop trying to argue semantics based purely on opinion. You cannot tell people they are mutually exclusive or different when it's completely based on the eyes of the beholder and nothing more.

[Leonus]

Oh look. Another Samurai player getting salty that his class is ...

He never said he was upset about Sam being called easy, he simply said some are calling their class harder than the nest.

There are even more popular games that are considered difficult because of the amount of depth in the game and not because the are mechanically frustrating. This is truth and while opinions may vary like you stated, why would it then be wrong for anyone of any class to assume their job is harder or easier than the next?

So my take is this, mechanically frustrating is not difficulty. At this point, anyone saying that it is is just as much of an opinion as mine and makes you no more right or wrong than anyone else here. So then I ask, what would be wrong with anyone defending the ease/difficulty of their said choice of class, and then who are you or anyone else for that matter to tell that
person any different?

That then makes this very thread pointless.

[Oscura]

He never said he was upset about Sam being called easy, he simply said some are calling their class harder than the nest.

Pointless thread with almost everyone naming their main job as the hardest and/or one of the two new jobs as the easiest, despite only having played 1-2 jobs at 70

Let's not play dumb. His level 70 class is SAM. The general consensus even amongst Red Mage players is that the class is easy to use and easy to master. Almost every single time someone has posted about SAM being easy there's been a self-righteous SAM player who immediately has to say "no, you're wrong!"

Fact of the matter is, most Samurai players will never agree with everyone else and I'm fine with that.

what would be wrong with anyone defending the ease/difficulty of their said choice of class, and then who are you or anyone else for that matter to tell that person any different?

That then makes this very thread pointless.

I have never said to someone "Your opinion is wrong, my opinion is right." In all the heated debate around SAM I have never once flat-out said "You're wrong!"

People are free to argue or debate what they disagree. My problem is when people try to tell people factually what "difficulty" is. My reiteration is only to inform you that you are of the minority. No matter how many times you state that mechanically frustrating does not equal difficulty, most people will not agree with you and you must accept that.

If this thread is so pointless, then stop posting in it?
I personally like receiving insight or opinions from forum posters, even if I disagree with them. I only posted in reply to that particular post because it didn't even attempt to hide the attitude and sheer irritation in it. "Pointless thread," followed by heavy implications that every opinion posted here is invalid. Do you not see the ego in that?