Other healers are really getting on my nerves. (Discussion)

[Enla]

I'm a SCH main, best I can literally do at this point when it comes to eight man content is offer off-healer support when tons of damage is being pushed out. I would love to be the main healer and still try to mostly focus on damage mitigation and healing in between casting my dots, but the potency nerfs my class has suffered kind of make it a little hard now even when I know the fight. Not impossible mind, but if the fight is something I'm not used to I do need the other healer to take on the main role until I've caught up to speed simply by virtue of the incredibly small margin for error SE has allowed my class to get away with if we wish to be useful at this moment.

That said I never have Clerics on my bar and find it a wasted skill at it's current potency. I would however KILL for them to return Esuna/Leeches to their proper classes so I can actually pick up something a bit more useful on the role list. Esuna can generally be swapped out for Omega and the Susano (because outside of that one Doom cast in Omega most of these have status afflictions that can't be removed) but I would like Eye for an Eye to have a far more permanent place on my bar.

[KisaiTenshi]

I can't agree more, however I've heard one too many healers say "clerics over Esuna/protect" ...

I have it on the "bar" so I don't take up it's space, but it's never selected in the role system. There are 5 skills I deem necessary and Cleric is not one of them.

Every healer needs to have Esuna. Protect is generally assumed to exist and people will stand there and wait for it to be cast. Most of the time.

Be careful not to enable them.
If your co-healer seems you are handling things fine then they might feel its agreeable to DPS more.

I know this won't always be the circumstance, but you might not realise it when it happens.

I'm sure those bad healers know this. This is why you get two of them in a party and can't clear a trial because they both spam their HoT's at the pull and don't do any other healing.

[kattzkitti]

Every healer needs to have Esuna.

Esuna is actually only needed in a few pieces of content, leaving the slot wasted in most content. Generally better to swap it out for something else in most content, slotting it back in on an as-needed basis.

[YitharV2]

Esuna is actually only needed in a few pieces of content, leaving the slot wasted in most content. Generally better to swap it out for something else in most content, slotting it back in on an as-needed basis.

Yeah there's a spreadsheet for it.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ring&sle=true#

[VanilleFang]

Esuna is actually only needed in a few pieces of content, leaving the slot wasted in most content. Generally better to swap it out for something else in most content, slotting it back in on an as-needed basis.

Actually, this isn't true. In most content you can find some use for Esuna, even if it's not required... there was a chart someone made on Reddit, maybe I should go find it. Hmm...

Otherwise, yeah you should take something else. But I would much rather take shitty Rescue over garbage Cleric Stance any day.

[AlexanderThorolund]

At level 70 I still can't believe putting regan on the tank before a pull is still a thing.

Also during extreme trials, group wide regent before starting.

These healers might as well paint a big target sign on themselves.

[kattzkitti]

Actually.l, this isn't true. In most content you can find some use for Esuna, even if it's not required... there was a chart someone made on Reddit, maybe I should go find it. Hmm... Otherwise, yeah you should take something else. But I would much rather take shitty Rescue over garbage Cleric Stance any day.

The overwhelming majority of the Esuna-able mechanics in this game (that aren't DoTs) can be safely ignored, and the overwhelming majority of DoTs can be dealt with by just tossing a Regen / Aspected on them and going about your business. The only one who might have trouble with the DoTs would be Scholar, but their fairy tether can usually deal with the stronger DoTs that might break a Galvanize.

At level 70 I still can't believe putting regan on the tank before a pull is still a thing. Also during extreme trials, group wide regent before starting. These healers might as well paint a big target sign on themselves.

It's probably the easiest way to learn, if someone takes the half second to comment. I know I stopped doing that after I got turned into a fine paste and someone pointed out that Medica II has abnormally high enmity generation. Granted, this was during level 50 content when I was still in mostly AF1 gear with a piece or two of outdated accessories because #Sprout... for someone to still be doing it at level 70 is a special kind of terribad (and likely one of those type of people who would ignore you anyways).

[NewSinz]

This DPSing as a healer only started after Alexander DPS checks. Since then the healing game has changed and Healers are expected to DPS. AST myself and the only time I deal damage is when the DPS is lacking and not killing stuff fast enough so Ill AoE. Other then that my tank keeps me plenty busy with big mob pulls. This mentality of Healers needing to DPS is kind of nuts. They shouldn't need to DPS. If you want to DPS play a DPS class. The thing that I have been noticing lately is bad DPS unable to kill groups quickly requiring me to heal harder because the mobs are up longer then the tanks cooldowns. Yet... we want to talk about how healers should be DPSing... makes no sense.

[YitharV2]

Yet... we want to talk about how healers should be DPSing... makes no sense.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._good/dcznu32/

DPS: "The healer is DPSing!"
Healer: "Well, someone has to..."

[NewSinz]

Let me edit and just /headdesk