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    Nixxe's Avatar
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kels View Post
    I can't agree more, however I've heard one too many healers say "clerics over Esuna/protect" ...
    Both healers shouldn't have Protect. Arguably, neither healer should after casting it on the party, though I like to have it in case someone needs to be ressed.
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kels View Post
    I can't agree more, however I've heard one too many healers say "clerics over Esuna/protect" ...
    I have it on the "bar" so I don't take up it's space, but it's never selected in the role system. There are 5 skills I deem necessary and Cleric is not one of them.

    Every healer needs to have Esuna. Protect is generally assumed to exist and people will stand there and wait for it to be cast. Most of the time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    Be careful not to enable them.
    If your co-healer seems you are handling things fine then they might feel its agreeable to DPS more.

    I know this won't always be the circumstance, but you might not realise it when it happens.
    I'm sure those bad healers know this. This is why you get two of them in a party and can't clear a trial because they both spam their HoT's at the pull and don't do any other healing.
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    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 07-09-2017 at 03:51 AM.

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    Mako Hext
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    Siren
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    Every healer needs to have Esuna.
    Esuna is actually only needed in a few pieces of content, leaving the slot wasted in most content. Generally better to swap it out for something else in most content, slotting it back in on an as-needed basis.
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    Arnar Grande
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    Esuna is actually only needed in a few pieces of content, leaving the slot wasted in most content. Generally better to swap it out for something else in most content, slotting it back in on an as-needed basis.
    Yeah there's a spreadsheet for it.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ring&sle=true#
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by kattzkitti View Post
    Esuna is actually only needed in a few pieces of content, leaving the slot wasted in most content. Generally better to swap it out for something else in most content, slotting it back in on an as-needed basis.
    Actually, this isn't true. In most content you can find some use for Esuna, even if it's not required... there was a chart someone made on Reddit, maybe I should go find it. Hmm...

    Otherwise, yeah you should take something else. But I would much rather take shitty Rescue over garbage Cleric Stance any day.
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    Last edited by VanilleFang; 07-09-2017 at 04:47 AM.

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    Coratanni's Avatar
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    Whispering Whiskers
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Eww, who is taking Cleric Stance? It's such a waste of space now.
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Cleric Stance is not worth being on anyone's bar.
    Hated it before stormblood, won't be using it unless they retool it again.

    Also no offense to the OP, but you're an Astro. Your dps isnt going to be as good as a White Mage's anyway.
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    Last edited by Coratanni; 07-09-2017 at 07:25 AM.

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    Ruby Wesson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coratanni View Post
    Hated it before stormblood, won't be using it unless they retool it again.
    Clerics was the best before stormblood, now i find it not worth a slot.
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    If you want me to heal, then just heal less, I guess. I'm not going to let the party die, but neither am I going to sit around waiting to snipe heals when I could be DPSing. The party's health is a resource to be spent to increase party DPS like any other.
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    Khloe Neko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    If you want me to heal, then just heal less, I guess. I'm not going to let the party die, but neither am I going to sit around waiting to snipe heals when I could be DPSing. The party's health is a resource to be spent to increase party DPS like any other.

    You sound abit offended with what I'm saying, and It seems like you're using a somewhat weak argument to frame this by. There's no such thing as "snipping" a heal, you're a healer first and a dps second. Going by your logic, why don't I just keep the party topped off and bring and extra dps, a Rdm/Smn can easily bring me a backup res. and contribute to group wide dps more than a White Mage can.
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    Crystal Skye
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kels View Post
    You sound abit offended with what I'm saying, and It seems like you're using a somewhat weak argument to frame this by. There's no such thing as "snipping" a heal, you're a healer first and a dps second. Going by your logic, why don't I just keep the party topped off and bring and extra dps, a Rdm/Smn can easily bring me a backup res. and contribute to group wide dps more than a White Mage can.
    If you possess the skill, sure, why the hell not do that.

    You might even be able to skip some really annoying mechanics if your DPS are good.
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    Advantage is fair if you're willing to do something that most others aren't.

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