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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I am saying you are overestimating the healing requirements. For one, she is not constantly auto attacking and both healers putting their single target HoTs on the main tank will tick for approximately 6,000 HP every three seconds. Factor in party wide damage is typically handled by aoe HoTs while Assize/Earthly Star should be weaved in regularly and the damage will easily be covered. None of this even counts tanks own ability to self heal. You're presuming tanks will be hit back to back for 19,000, thus requiring an immediate heal. That just isn't the case. If you or your healers struggled, they either weren't utilizing their HoTs properly, were undergeared or just inexperienced. That has nothing to do with Slaying accessories or their viability.
    Sigh. Lets see what accessories your tanks will use when they get to that fight in savage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ametrine View Post
    Hey pro-STR tank players. What about the fact literally everything can crit you? How do your fixed percentage of heals and mitigation handle RNG?
    Only autoattacks can crit. Concurrent discussion about V3 aside, no crit autoattack is more than a healer can adjust for, and none even comes close to approaching the damage a tank-buster attack will do. Healers can easily cover for RNG from autoattacks. So, yes, once tanks have enough VIT to survive the worst that the enemies have to offer, it's time to start piling on the STR.

    And speaking of V3...

    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    Sigh. Lets see what accessories your tanks will use when they get to that fight in savage.
    You and others in this thread seem to imply that stacking STR is a binary all-or-nothing thing. That a "STR tank" is going to pile on every bit of STR they can slot, regardless of the situation.

    This is a silly notion.

    A good tank will stack whatever VIT they need to survive the worst a mob has to offer. Any VIT beyond that is WASTED STAT. That's what folks in this thread are trying to make clear. No one is advocating stacking STR to the point where a tank can no longer function as a tank. It's simply an undeniable truth that the only purpose of VIT beyond the minimum to survive is pointless. Well, aside from covering for bad healers - but as I said before, folks should gear with the assumption that their party members are competent.

    So, in your V3 (Savage) example, if there's a risk of a double-crit ending the run, tanks will stack enough VIT to survive a double-crit. And then STR beyond that. Simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    You and others in this thread seem to imply that stacking STR is a binary all-or-nothing thing. That a "STR tank" is going to pile on every bit of STR they can slot, regardless of the situation.
    I do not imply anything of the sort. I started using pentamelded/str accessories when we were still in coil. Then gordias and another set of pentamelded and another 20 million down the drain(got really unlucky with the melds >_>). I breathed a sigh of great relief when calculations for damage started taking Vit into the account.

    And now, honestly...how can you possibly defend tanks using accessories FROM A PREVIOUS EXPANSION with a straight face? I use them but i find that the whole thing is stupid, abhorrent and unnatural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizhard View Post
    I do not imply anything of the sort. I started using pentamelded/str accessories when we were still in coil. Then gordias and another set of pentamelded and another 20 million down the drain(got really unlucky with the melds >_>). I breathed a sigh of great relief when calculations for damage started taking Vit into the account.

    And now, honestly...how can you possibly defend tanks using accessories FROM A PREVIOUS EXPANSION with a straight face? I use them but i find that the whole thing is stupid, abhorrent and unnatural.
    you cant meld vit onto those accessories?
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