BLM needs some love and RDM needs a nerf

[Bhearil]

On dummies, blm>smn>rdm. Is up to the player and the encounter to hold his/her own. There are better and worst suited fights and players that make the best of the encounter while some who dont.

Sometimes on Susano i have saw blms dealing more damage than sam and rdm but depends on the skill on the player and on that case a bit of luck at not being targeted by too many Susano mechanics, but Susano es a heavy movement fight is logical blms will struggle there, if they didnt they would be crazy on less movement ones

Things wont change aside very small changes, and some people make it looks like the sky is falling on the poor blm

[Neela]

On dummies, blm>smn>rdm. Is up to the player and the encounter to hold his/her own. There are better and worst suited fights and players that make the best of the encounter while some who dont.

Sometimes on Susano i have saw blms dealing more damage than sam and rdm but depends on the skill on the player and on that case a bit of luck at not being targeted by too many Susano mechanics, but Susano es a heavy movement fight is logical blms will struggle there, if they didnt they would be crazy on less movement ones

unlogical argument somehow - its true that a skilled blm might outdamge an unskilled rdm but if the same skilled player would be as skilled on rdm cls he will outdamage his own blm parse on rdm. different playerskill-level shouldn't be an argument to point which cls is better in a real fight - now dummy parse is still don't worth anything... rdm > blm in movement this fact gives a shit on dummy numbers.

but yeah blms at all are not that poor that they deserve a buff... there are others cls which are messed up way harder than them.

[Galvuu]

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Alright, real talk, these dummy arguments are seriously so completely dishonest.
BLM is the job that loses the most dps between a dummy fight and a real fight.
And a dummy doesn't account for some of the most powerful utility tools in the game.
Trick Attack doesn't mean much in a dummy at all, but in a party you get a huge bonus in raid dps when it's up.
An AST hitting a dummy won't get much off a Balance, but we all know how much a Celestial Opposition'd aoe Balance is worth (it's actually overcentralizing right now, as far as healers are concerned).

Further, the fact that you say this one BLM outdps that other SAM doesn't mean much. I can outdps a SAM too, if he plays poorly. That doesn't inherently say anything about the jobs.
We have a large body of data that highlights the issues some of the jobs are facing. This isn't our imagination and personal experience speaking. This is data over thousands of different people in hundreds of different clears.
These are (statistical) trends.

I think it's quite concerning that, as someone else pointed out (was it CecMiller? Can't recall, sorry helpful person ), the top 50 fastest Lak and Susie kills have a single BLM participating.
That means there's a consensus that our job just isn't worth investing into compared to the rest of the lot.

"But you can clear content!"
Yea, sure I can. But neither as easily, nor as quickly and, worst of all, not as consistently or effectively as the rest.
Sure, make my job have a lot of variance and be hard to do consistently well with, but at least me give me some reward for it.
This is added on top the number of minor nuisances that made the flow of the job feel quite a bit clunkier in 4.0 (AF leniency and mana tick reliance being the top two).