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  1. #31
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    Leandras's Avatar
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    Leandras Lionheart
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    Gilgamesh
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    So you're telling me the change that was far more punishing on legit players than the botters and match throwers is now causing an influx in apathy and botting? Who could've possibly seen that coming?
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  2. #32
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    Felis's Avatar
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    Skadi Felis
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Krokov View Post
    From what I've seen the majority of people in front lines seem to be doing it only for the Garo achievements mounts and so forth.
    But for the Garo mount you have to win.
    Loses don't count in the achievement.

    Maybe SE should reduce the exp for a lose to 0.
    Or put in an achievement with a free job jump potion if the player win 200 battles
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    Last edited by Felis; 07-06-2017 at 07:46 AM.

  3. #33
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Welcome to rage quitting without actually rage quitting. Shouldn't have asked for the EXP changes based on if you're winning or losing. You guys shot yourselves in the foot.

    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    PvP xp was nerfed, so people feel more inclined to just not try when they see they are losing.
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  4. #34
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    Krokov Reynall
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    But for the Garo mount you have to win.
    Loses don't count in the achievement.

    Maybe SE should reduce the exp for a lose to 0.
    Or put in an achievement with a free job jump potion if the player win 200 battles
    You'll get a lot less people going into PVP then there is now. I know you have to win to get the stuff I myself completed it already a long time ago. This is just basically what I've seen I'm sure the majority is there just to get experience points win or lose. I just want to win just hey I won the XP is nice yes but man just loss after loss after loss not because of any ago or botting but because people just don't do simple for lack of a better word mechanics at trying to win the fight.
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    Last edited by Krokov; 07-06-2017 at 08:17 AM.

  5. #35
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    Rilasha's Avatar
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    R'lasha Nereshyl
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    Tonberry
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    Dancer Lv 80
    Yeah, this problem is only on NA/EU datacentres. JP datacentres are unaffected by botting in PvP. The exp change made the situation worse than it was on NA/EU and also punished 2/3 of the JP playerbase as well. I don't know what they were thinking with this.

    Legit players have been punished while botters don't care. It was obvious what would happen.
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    Also known as Yukikaze Yumishi on Midgardsormr.

  6. #36
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    AriaFairchild's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasenai View Post
    Aether frontlines are literally infested with bots. The past few hours there's been alliances where the bots vastly outnumber the players

    Earlier I had a run where adders had *four* active players and 20 bots/afk.

    This is completely unacceptable and makes running frontlines absolutely impossible.
    By "bots" you mean those eggheads that throw matches the moment they see their team lags behind?

    In you screenshot, there seems to be no flames on the big ice. Had they tried they could have salvaged a 2nd place.

    But hey, I don't pay their subs.
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  7. #37
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    Derio's Avatar
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    So bots are botting PvP to get high enough level so they can annoy people in HW and SB areas. But they are helping queue times
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  8. #38
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    RLofOBFL's Avatar
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    Lala Yuki
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    Excalibur
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Just had another one where the majority were bots....its really disturbing and kinda ruins the experience. I think SE needs to at least take some action. Before it ends up like RMT was for years.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/12116351/


  9. #39
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    TankHunter678's Avatar
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    Selena Zensh
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AriaFairchild View Post
    By "bots" you mean those eggheads that throw matches the moment they see their team lags behind?

    In you screenshot, there seems to be no flames on the big ice. Had they tried they could have salvaged a 2nd place.

    But hey, I don't pay their subs.
    Why salvage a second place when you get the same xp as if you got last?

    Better to just let Maelstrom win and move onto the next match.

    Why try when the only thing you get more for second place is worthless pvp xp and wolf marks for only so-so glamour gear?
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    just watched my g/f do front lines.. no bots. everyone participated and the team she was on one, she only died once and was very active.

    Most people seem to be at the big ice, those guys were just at one.

    why is it in pvp stuff ppl claim others are bots all the time?

    used to play overwatch and you get reported for playing a hero that isn't "meta" or you are a bot/hacker. :/
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