Remove Frontline experiece NOW - Group majority of bots

[KageTokage]

I'd like to hope something like this would motivate them to finally be a little more active in banning bots of all sorts, not just RMT, but I doubt it.

It's pretty frustrating to see all of my server's habitual botters slowly botting their way through the MSQ unimpeded (Well, aside from their scripts failing and making them either do nothing or kill themselves on things they can't beat repeatedly).

[ManuelBravo]

This is completely unacceptable and makes running frontlines absolutely impossible.

so easy kills? kill them and if they don;t get up or re spawn in safe zone they get kicked for inactivity. Had that and was funny how it became a 2 nation battle :P

[HyperSMB]

I would be OK in principle with PvP giving now EXP.

It really is sad how pathetic this community is sometimes though. Every nice thing botters can ruin, they will.

[CosmicKirby]

The armory Bonus also doesn't apply to Frontlines anymore.

It's really bizarre that Frontlines goes from a competitive EXP gain experience to easily the worst way to try an level with the very first patch of the expansion.

[Felis]

It's really bizarre that Frontlines goes from a competitive EXP gain experience to easily the worst way to try an level with the very first patch of the expansion.

Maybe the devs think that people joining PvP should do it for PvP

[Krokov]

Maybe the devs think that people joining PvP should do it for PvP

From what I've seen the majority of people in front lines seem to be doing it only for the Garo achievements mounts and so forth. I'm sure do it for the PVP competitiveness and stuff but I don't know the ratio between the two but just when I've seen the majority seem to be only doing it for the event items and achievements that have already been in place.

[Felis]

From what I've seen the majority of people in front lines seem to be doing it only for the Garo achievements mounts and so forth.

But for the Garo mount you have to win.
Loses don't count in the achievement.

Maybe SE should reduce the exp for a lose to 0.
Or put in an achievement with a free job jump potion if the player win 200 battles

[Alleo]

Maybe the devs think that people joining PvP should do it for PvP

Lets take away every achievement like mounts, minions, music, tomestones, exp and only leave wolf marks to get PvP gear. How many people would still play PvP? Before the Garo event the wait times were quite high and creating PvP maps and modes do take time and costs money. So for SE the best would be that as many people as possible are playing this content. Thats probably the reason for the Garo event and thats the reason for exp. If you take this away and leave with only true PvPers you may have to face the possibility of not getting much new content because its not worth it for SE.

[Shut]

Lets take away every achievement like mounts, minions, music, tomestones, exp and only leave wolf marks to get PvP gear. How many people would still play PvP? Before the Garo event the wait times were quite high and creating PvP maps and modes do take time and costs money. So for SE the best would be that as many people as possible are playing this content. Thats probably the reason for the Garo event and thats the reason for exp. If you take this away and leave with only true PvPers you may have to face the possibility of not getting much new content because its not worth it for SE.

Let's take away every reward/mount/achievement/gear/glam/minions from every single content, you got a dead game. That's irrelevant, you can kill any aspect of the game that way. Most complains were not coming from the fact it brought reward, but from the fact it doesn't give any incentive to win.

What is so astonishing in the fact you have to play a mode the way it is to get rewards? You are actually playing when you're in a dungeon with the aim of clearing it to get full reward, right?
You're running PotD, you do your job well, then one guy of the team start pulling three room at once then you die. You got no xp, no item, no rewards at all. But I have yet to see complains about this.

Pvp rewards must be based on participation as ANY other content. The current system is bad that's all, devs need to look into a way to reward people according to their own performance, but that need time.
Dev put the system the wrong way twice: 1st giving free exp for anyone without giving incentive to winning, 2nd by giving 2nd and 3rd places the same xp.

This system was bad from the start, if from the start we had different tier of rewards the same way it was for garo, I doubt people would have complained

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

As I said in the other thread:

"Giving your all doesn't guarantee you win, but giving up guarantees you lose."

As for bots, hunt them down for the free points. If they're on your team, kick them. If they outnumber you, it's unfortunate, but grab some friends for the next match and make sure they don't get a spot on your team.