Tanks that think they are DPS, just stop...

[Lannybaby]

if you want to tank in tank stance doing 1 2 3 combo or whatever, then that's your own choice whether you you're just lazy or that's the cap of your skills.

Nice, so we're lazy if we play tanks the way we want to. As long as the tank is top of the enmity list, and as long as he's not getting creamed to the point that healers can't handle it, then all should be well. Any extra, over-the-top, dps should just be considered that - extra. But no, 1 2 3 tanks get insults for doing our jobs the way you don't think we should.

Honestly, I'm so tired of being told to drop grit and use more DA, then be called bad if I don't.

[Kusaribe]

You know who you are. stop complaining about your DPS numbers and hold aggro with aggro builder combos, and if DPS die because of they casually ripped aggro off you then that is your fault because you didn't hold aggro on that 1 trash mob. if they used an AoE, then that is their fault. Do you job as a tank and hold aggro. Because I already am...

Just out of curiosity. Have you ever cleared a relevent raid-tier in a feasible amount of time?

Also. There a plenty of other MMORPGs, where tanks are doing exactly that. Just spaming aggro abilities and using tank cooldowns here and there. Ever considered switching to any of those? Because I sure would, if square took away my ability to do damage as a tank. Or at least stoped playing as a tank. Because I'm already sick from that kind of gameplay.

[Remiilia-vermilion]

Nice, so we're lazy if we play tanks the way we want to. As long as the tank is top of the enmity list, and as long as he's not getting creamed to the point that healers can't handle it, then all should be well. Any extra, over-the-top, dps should just be considered that - extra. But no, 1 2 3 tanks get insults for doing our jobs the way you don't think we should.

Honestly, I'm so tired of being told to drop grit and use more DA, then be called bad if I don't.

I'm not insulting the way you play, I'm actually talking about the way you think as I said at the beginning. Again, you can play the way you want, but don't tell others to not do dps while they can and then blame them for being good and for you to be called bad by the community cause you don't wanna do dps while you can

[Baci]

Nice, so we're lazy if we play tanks the way we want to. As long as the tank is top of the enmity list, and as long as he's not getting creamed to the point that healers can't handle it, then all should be well. Any extra, over-the-top, dps should just be considered that - extra. But no, 1 2 3 tanks get insults for doing our jobs the way you don't think we should.

Honestly, I'm so tired of being told to drop grit and use more DA, then be called bad if I don't.

You guys insult tanks who optimize their dps too. So where is the Problem?

[YitharV2]

Thank you. I couldn't have said it better myself. If you are content with pretending your a turtle and doing nothing else but taking damage then by all means do what you want. But a lot of us here want to fully utilize our kits, we want to be an asset to our raid parties and survive while actually contributing to the fight. We aren't just sponges here to get slapped by a boss, so if we can survive and do exactly what you are doing by keeping agro and surviving WHILE also pushing for numbers then why the hell shouldn't we be allowed to.

There is such a ridiculous over exaggeration on the forums right now; no one in the tanking community is calling for equal numbers as a DPS, and before you try and say "that's how it was in HW" then your dps is bad plain and simple. We want to contribute and fight along side our party and feel like we're doing something other then acting like we're a brick wall that taunts.

Yeah, as I said in my comment, everything SE has designed in terms of tanking has pretty much encouraged tanks to DPS because tanking otherwise is just too bland and boring.

[Renkei]

the current tank balance is horrible, how does a class with a current block rate of around 40%+ that will continue to scale up, do damage on par with tank classes that don't even have a shield, Also locking us out of STR equipment is catering towards the casuals that complain they are being out damaged by tanks to begin with due to their lack of experience with their own class, This makes me scared for Savage Level Contents Difficulty.

[DRKoftheAzure]

Just out of curiosity. Have you ever cleared a relevent raid-tier in a feasible amount of time?

Also. There a plenty of other MMORPGs, where tanks are doing exactly that. Just spaming aggro abilities and using tank cooldowns here and there. Ever considered switching to any of those? Because I sure would, if square took away my ability to do damage as a tank. Or at least stoped playing as a tank. Because I'm already sick from that kind of gameplay.

Unfortunately Thordan EX is the only relevant 1 I cleared... before Stormblood...

[DRKoftheAzure]

the current tank balance is horrible, how does a class with a current block rate of around 40%+ that will continue to scale up, do damage on par with tank classes that don't even have a shield, Also locking us out of STR equipment is catering towards the casuals that complain they are being out damaged by tanks to begin with due to their lack of experience with their own class, This makes me scared for Savage Level Contents Difficulty.

I want to do Savage mode content but I would rather do it with people from my FC than a PUG static that is way too serious, and fun is higher priority in games but some people like to take the fun out of it... like the STR tank META... I'm of the VIT tank META since since tanks are supposed to take damage...

[PomPomFlare]

I want to do Savage mode content but I would rather do it with people from my FC than a PUG static that is way too serious, and fun is higher priority in games but some people like to take the fun out of it... like the STR tank META... I'm of the VIT tank META since since tanks are supposed to take damage...

There is no Vit tank meta. Meta means most efficient tactics available and being vit tank is clearly not the most efficient way(At least currently).

[QooEr]

There is no Vit tank meta. Meta means most efficient tactics available and being vit tank is clearly not the most efficient way(At least currently).

um obviously you dont know of the defensive drk meta https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBLsjnqcXsI