Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
Are you telling me it's not selfish of the player to make 7 others twiddle their thumbs for 30+ minutes just so they can watch all their cutscenes? DF is a land of compromise. If they want a run where they get to fully immerse themselves in dungeon fights and story, PF is waiting for them.

I get my tomestones doing ancient content, and he doesn't have to waste an evening queuing up for a CM run that may never come to fruition. Both sides benefit from the deal.

And yes, he was getting snippy. I was just explaining the situation. I didn't feel bad for him at all after that.
That's why you have the new player bonus, which is incredibly generous in CM and Prae. As I said, and I'm going to say it for the last time (as it keeps getting ignored), that bonus saves you from having to run anything else to get it. So yes, it's selfish to get that, and then screw the player that is having you get it. You're just telling me that you like getting double the reward without doing anything in exchange, and that's the very definition of rudeness and selfiness. On top of that you try to make a normal reply (in that situation) look as if those evil sprouts are the ones acting bad.


Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
This seems like blind belief in some sort of notion of inherent human goodness than anything based on evidence or rationality. The sheer volume of people who run the MSQ roulette the way they do pretty much speaks to how incredibly rare it is that people are actually willing to sit through the cutscenes for sprouts, though it does make it clear there are still a lot of sprouts progressing through the story. Yeah, I'm sure you meet plenty of nice people, but being a nice person doesn't mean you're going to be willing to spend several hours each day queuing into the MSQ roulette and sitting around twiddling your thumbs just to make sure all the little sprouts can have an uninterrupted cutscene experience with reasonable queue times.
You make it sound as if every run has a new player, when it's not that way. So, if less people queued up for the story, it would just mean less runs without new players. And even then, aside from everything else that I told you on that post and that you didn't take into acount for your reply, if the worst came to happen then it would force SE to finally fix these dungeons.


Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
And you're fulfilling that role by queuing into the dungeon and clearing it, giving them quest credit and allowing them to continue with the MSQ. You're not signing a contract to wait for every last person to watch every cutscene when you join the queue. You guys are ridiculously egocentric.
You act as if you're making them a favour, when we both know that you run those dungeons because you want something out of it. So you both benefit and, on top of that, you get your reward doubled thanks to the new player. Taking that into consideration, by rushing the dungeon it's clear who is benefiting more.