REQUEST: Please change PVP duty incentive

[Dizhonor]

It's only the best for DPS since they messed up DPS queue times for dungeons. Dungeons are still quicker for Tank/Healer.

Unbalanced PVP rewards for PVE players who are unsatisfied with PVE queues is not a valid solution to PVE queues.

[Nixxe]

Unbalanced PVP rewards for PVE players who are unsatisfied with PVE queues is not a valid solution to PVE queues.

They're not imbalanced. You also need to get over this idea that it's "PVE players" invading your BGs. The moment someone enters Frontline, they're no longer just a PVE player, but keep clutching your pearls.

Edit: I just looked at your Lodestone profile and you actually have fewer PVP achievements than I do...

[Dizhonor]

They're not imbalanced. You also need to get over this idea that it's "PVE players" invading your BGs. The moment someone enters Frontline, they're no longer just a PVE player, but keep clutching your pearls.

Edit: I just looked at your Lodestone profile and you actually have fewer PVP achievements than I do...

1. I was responding to a PvE player (so, context matters)
2. You received the SAME experience reward regardless of place. That's the definition of unbalanced system. (unless you think everyone at the Olympics should receive a gold medal regardless of place?)
3. Ad hominem statements undermine your position.

[Nixxe]

1. I was responding to a PvE player (so, context matters)
2. You received the SAME experience reward regardless of place. That's the definition of unbalanced system. (unless you think everyone at the Olympics should receive a gold medal regardless of place?)
3. Ad hominem statements undermine your position.

You don't receive the same reward regardless of place, nor was the previous system "the definition of unbalanced system" either figuratively or literally. You received the same experience regardless of place, but you did not receive the same PVP experience or Wolf Marks regardless of place. This makes sense, as the point of the experience was to fuel participation and help make queues better, so everyone should get the same, since everyone participated for the same duration. It was only giving as much XP as I'd have expected Palace of the Dead to give if it scaled to 70, so it's not like it was some outrageous sum either. Again, if they want to differentiate between winners and losers, then they should have buffed the XP for winning, not nerfed the XP for losing. As it stands, the XP for losing is now complete trash and it would take 11 losing BGs just to get to 61, which is basically a thumb in the eye to anyone who was already trying.

Also, I know people get ultra triggered by ad hominem because it's like the one logical fallacy they can name, but it's an informal fallacy, which means it's not necessarily a bad argument and has to be evaluated for its specific content and context. When you're sitting here throwing a fit about "PVE PLAYERS IN MY BGS??!?!?" pointing out that you yourself seem to be a total rookie PVPer, with less experience than people you're criticizing, is completely valid. It looks like you've barely touched PVP at all, yet you're sitting here acting all indignant like it's your bread and butter content. I, someone who has PVP'd only a handful of times, have more PVP achievements than you do, including ones that show I've simply participated in more PVP than you have.

[OmegaStrongtan]

Or they could up the rewards for leve quests, fates and such so people won't to to PVP even if they don't care at all and just do the bare minumum to not get kicked.

[Fawkes]

(unless you think everyone at the Olympics should receive a gold medal regardless of place?)

This isn't the Olympics. It's a video game. There's a pretty enormous difference between somebody else getting as much exp as you in frontlines and the Olympic committee handing out gold medals to everyone who showed up.

Ad hominem statements undermine your position.

So do your strawman arguments.

[Tharia]

This isn't the Olympics. It's a video game. There's a pretty enormous difference between somebody else getting as much exp as you in frontlines and the Olympic committee handing out gold medals to everyone who showed up.


So do your strawman arguments.

Hmm as maybe hinted from me in another topic I slowly think that he just does bored trollig or is a person with a very egoistic world view.

[Xellos2099]

Or they could up the rewards for leve quests, fates and such so people won't to to PVP even if they don't care at all and just do the bare minumum to not get kicked.

THERE ISN"T BATTLELEVE for 60+

[Moonlite]

This isn't the Olympics. It's a video game. There's a pretty enormous difference between somebody else getting as much exp as you in frontlines and the Olympic committee handing out gold medals to everyone who showed up.

You know what I thought would be a good answer. Not everyone gets medals at the Olympics. But everyone who participates gets the honor of saying they are an Olympic athlete and get to enjoy many aspects of the Olympics. The xp is the participation reward, at least I thought it was.

[AriaFairchild]

We just can't have nice things. When devs decided to throw a bone at PvP, we get shit on like this. It just baffles me...none of this would have happened if people actually...y'know...play the game (mind blown)? There even dudes who afk in 8v8 Feast...

The devs were really nice in their initiative to revitalize PvP, yet it could not last long. Truly disgusting, the way people game the system and undermine good intentions like this.

Suggestion: to get reward, a person has to contribute at least 2 kills or 5 assists or at least 40k dmg to ice in (in shatter at least); for feast, it would be 1 kill or 2-3 assists.