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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    100% is not RNG.
    ...if you're willing to spend 1200 MP overhealing for it...
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    ...if you're willing to spend 1200 MP overhealing for it...
    WHM don't have issue with mana...
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceasaria View Post
    WHM don't have issue with mana...
    doesn't mean I think it's good design.
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    doesn't mean I think it's good design.
    I agree with this. It doesn't feel good to be rewarded for playing inefficiently; there are plenty of situations now where I know I don't need to use a Cure 2, but I'll throw it out there anyway just to pad my gauge for an upcoming CD or because I want to throw out a Benison.

    Sure, we have the MP generation to support this, but deliberately overhealing like this runs counter to every WHM (and general healer) instinct instilled by the past few years of gameplay. If you aim for maximum efficiency, you'll see many fewer Lilies than someone who leverages Cure 2 to work the new system.
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    Kasumi Shirinami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    I agree with this. It doesn't feel good to be rewarded for playing inefficiently; there are plenty of situations now where I know I don't need to use a Cure 2, but I'll throw it out there anyway just to pad my gauge for an upcoming CD or because I want to throw out a Benison.

    Sure, we have the MP generation to support this, but deliberately overhealing like this runs counter to every WHM (and general healer) instinct instilled by the past few years of gameplay. If you aim for maximum efficiency, you'll see many fewer Lilies than someone who leverages Cure 2 to work the new system.
    Bingo.

    We've spent years playing as efficiently as possible due to WHM's atrocious resource management before, so while it may not affect us as much now, it pains me to do so.
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    Uriel Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    ...if you're willing to spend 1200 MP overhealing for it...
    Uh, what? I'm not defending the lillies. All I'm saying is that 100% proc rate on Cure II != RNG.
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    Qoo Er
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    ...if you're willing to spend 1200 MP overhealing for it...
    why overheal then? just use cure 2 and slap a benison after using it every time you need to however sporadic it is. the cooldown reduction aspect isnt that impactful anyways but get this: whm's gauge is literally the only beneficial gauge healers have. scholar's gauge is just a marker for how many aetherflow stacks you have (useless) and the fairy gauge is tied to 1 action so it might as well just be considered part of aetherpact. ast's gauge is straight up detrimental to the job compared to the old buff system for cards. i really dont see what the big deal is
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    Shaartis Laggal
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    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    why overheal then? just use cure 2 and slap a benison after using it every time you need to however sporadic it is. the cooldown reduction aspect isnt that impactful anyways but get this: whm's gauge is literally the only beneficial gauge healers have. scholar's gauge is just a marker for how many aetherflow stacks you have (useless) and the fairy gauge is tied to 1 action so it might as well just be considered part of aetherpact. ast's gauge is straight up detrimental to the job compared to the old buff system for cards. i really dont see what the big deal is
    Cure => Not overheal but only 50% chance of lily.
    Cure II => Overheal but always lily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Cure => Not overheal but only 50% chance of lily.
    Cure II => Overheal but always lily.
    how is cure 2 an overheal? just cast the heal when the tank is at lower hp. mp management isnt even an issue anymore and casting less heals allows for more healer dps. i rarely ever use regular cure anymore
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    Mimifu Mifu
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaSonic View Post
    Cure => Not overheal but only 50% chance of lily.
    Cure II => Overheal but always lily.
    That's why I don't use benediction, it overheal too much

    Quote Originally Posted by QooEr View Post
    just cast the heal when the tank is at lower hp
    Shhhhh, It's a secret.
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    Last edited by NamoNanamo; 07-05-2017 at 07:56 AM.

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