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    Player
    Raim's Avatar
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    Character
    Raim Surion
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    No people are hung up on the fact that in dungeons and even in savage content a WHM may only use Cure I and Cure II a single digit amount of times because so much healing comes from Regen, Medica II, and OGCDs. Everything about WHM could be fixed right now with two simple changes:

    -Divine Benison only uses one Lily. Its absolutely terrible design for it to need one, yet consume up to three for no benefit.
    -Regen ticks have a 10% and 20% chance to create a Lily and Confession respectively.
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Character
    Ghishlain Pyrial
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    If you're at a ilvl and skill level where you can get away with using a single digit number of cures in dungeons and savage mode, you and your party is probably well overgeared past the content anyway and don't need those additional tools to assist. Just DPS harder and enjoy the massive MP sustain the kit gives you at that point~

    I won't dispute more ways to proc Lilies and Confessions would be nice, and the change to Divine Benison would be a good QoL but if it never happens I'd still be very satisfied with the kit. But my beef with the WHM community as a whole ATM is the absolute salt that's being laid about how unplayable the job is suppose to be when... the job has immense amounts of longevity in MP and can provide more throughput than any other healer in the game right now and provide tons of wipe recovery potential. It's not a dead job.
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    Qoo Er
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 90
    exactly my thoughts. whm is far from dead, and the current state of all the healing skills is pretty nice (except for plenary indulgence, they really should increase that proc). and aside from healing, whm's dps is so high that it can compensate for its lack or "utility" (versus scholar's strategem. if the party's dps is low, strategem is less impactful)
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    Character
    Uriel Valesti
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    I will admit that at forst I did add to that salt, but now? I actually really like how WHM plays... beside PI.
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    Character
    Ciel Wintermere
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    I think healer is all about managing resources as efficient as possible while responding adequately to any situation. This mean using the right spells at the right time without any overhealing and lilies gauge do not complement this kind of playstyle which i think is the major reason why some people are complaining right now.
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    Character
    Sebazy Spiritwalker
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I actually seem to get pretty decent use out of the lilies during dungeons, it's a little quirky but I try to rotate 3 slightly different approaches for trash pulls depending on my cooldowns and the size of the pack. If Assize is about to pop I'll actively fish for lilies with cure 2 healing rather than using Tetra/Asylum etc. Once Assize is done, then I go back to focusing on healing only with the oGCDs. And of course I try to keep Thin Air/PoM on cooldown and ideally aligned with the larger pulls and packs for maximum holy spam.

    Using this approach I can merrily push 3K dps leading up to the first boss in Doma Castle without big pulls. Gathering the first 3 packs into one sees me at 4k+. Assize is a whopping amount of damage on larger trash pulls and it can really pay off to leverage those lilies to get more value out of it. In the Expert dungeons I'm generally averaging 2.5k at the end of the dungeon.

    Ironically though, I pretty much ignore the lilies in 8 man content so far, the primals just didn't need enough tank healing to have any points where you could realistically aim for 3 a lily assize without being hugely time and mp inefficient. The Omega bosses are a little better in this regard but still, the value just isn't there in my eyes.
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