LOLSE, We're not wearing 270 STR to hold hate, c'mon now...

[Shinkyo]

Seriously? This borders on willfully ignorant.

I don't really what's the issue with his response.
He's just saying having the same parameter for hp and damage is difficult for the game's overall balance. From a battle design perspective, that's true.
Vit scaling was an easy fix but ultimately it's not a perfect solution either. In that regards, I do not criticize SE not wanting to revert to vit scaling. Well, just have to see what solution they introduce in 4.05

The real issue is the facts that upgrading our right side isn't very appealing and that they didn't retroactively lock str accessories.
Really, they should just put vit and str on fending accessories that that will be the cleanest way to solve this once and for all.
They could even reduce the weight for str to AP.
We don't want more tank dps, we just want all our slots to be contributing to our performance.

[Argyle_Darkheart]

we just want all our slots to be contributing to our performance.

This. Fending accessories do not feel like an upgrade.

[Rhais]

Like i said, fluidity of the job itself, emnity issues, inability to perform role functions. If the job is no longer "fun" that is an issue. if the job is no longer "fun" because "mah deeps" I dont see that as a valid concern. I'm not saying WAR doesn't have issues right now, I'm saying DPS shouldn't be the issue everyone is complaining about, and that is why STR accessories is silly.

The whole Tank only runs of Savage is where the mechanics of the jobs broke the game. No other role can do this, especially while a tier is still "current".

Tanks mechanics never broke the game, tank dps numbers never broke the game. How many people were doing these tank only runs? Far more common is whenever mechanically feasible one tank is dropped in favor of more dps. There are quite a few fights where it became common community practice to drop a tank in favor of more dps, the list of fights where extra tanks where added to the lineup is nonexistent.

[Falar]

Tanks mechanics never broke the game, tank dps numbers never broke the game. How many people were doing these tank only runs? Far more common is whenever mechanically feasible one tank is dropped in favor of more dps. There are quite a few fights where it became common community practice to drop a tank in favor of more dps, the list of fights where extra tanks where added to the lineup is nonexistent.

Don't waste your time---that poster looks like they are just shitposting in all of our threads tonight because they want tanks doing 400 dps.

[Poison_Rose]

The whole Tank only runs of Savage is where the mechanics of the jobs broke the game. No other role can do this, especially while a tier is still "current".

Have you ever done an all tank run of savage before?

[Zumi]

Sounds like the fix might be them removing tank jobs off all the old str accessories in the game. Which would be fine with me because I don't like the idea of using an old expansions gear anyway.

[Baci]

Um... here's a thought. Use your DPS rotation, but don't complain about not being able to deal 4k+ dps? I mean, there's nothing wrong with trying to Max dps, but acting like dps is the only merit of any job makes me wonder why people even bother using those jobs in the first place.

Show me. Show me please where a tank complaints about not being able to do 4k dps. Oh wait the answer is none

[YitharV2]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...62#post4263062
Seriously? This borders on willfully ignorant.

More like they were listening to the JP players?

From here:

I think that it is an interpretation that I want a hate acquisition power proportional to the attack power of DPS, not to hit the DPS's attack power. . .

That's obviously from Google Translate, but I don't think I need to translate that.

I'll translate a part of the OP of that thread since Google Translate can be bad sometimes.

タンクはアクセの剛力マテリア分しか攻撃力が上がりませんがDPS陣はアクセのIL上昇でダイレクトに攻撃力があがりヘイト維持が辛くなる一方です。
As for tanks, attack power will not go up except via the STR materia part of accessories, but as for the DPS, with the rising of accessory item levels, their attack power will rise directly and hate preservation will become difficult.

[Marxam]

Glad to see JP players having the same issues as us. Take the hint SE.

[KorenA]

Wasn't this the reason tenacity was introduced? lol...