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  1. #41
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    VanilleFang's Avatar
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    Then we buff WHM like OP said. Does that not fix the issue?
    Buffing HPS and/or personal DPS wouldn't fix much of anything. WHM doesn't need more DPS... And increasing HPS could make WHM required until we hit a certain ilvl where HPS will be ignored for more utility. Neither situation sounds ideal.
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  2. #42
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    Rai Nagisei
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    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Buffing HPS and/or personal DPS wouldn't fix much of anything. WHM doesn't need more DPS... And increasing HPS could make WHM required until we hit a certain ilvl where HPS will be ignored for more utility. Neither situation sounds ideal.
    I think their kit should be reworked a bit to include regens and off globals as well as Plenary being an AoE heal. Maybe buff their DPS a bit.

    SCH, from what I hear is not fun to play, while it remains effective. I don't play SCH in a hardcore setting so I can't comment on it too much.
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  3. #43
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    Aurora Vlondett
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aomine1992 View Post
    But see this is the problem with the ones asking for a nerf, most of us agree that the other healers need some fixing including your PI statement...but my thing was ask for that stuff but not at the expense of another class, balance is fine because it's not always up now if it came up frequently then I would agree to maybe lower its dps increase but it doesn't...
    This is what we were hoping for in regards to healer balance when SE said they were doing things for Stormblood.

    Yeah...
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  4. #44
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rai_Takara View Post
    I think their kit should be reworked a bit to include regens and off globals as well as Plenary being an AoE heal. Maybe buff their DPS a bit.

    SCH, from what I hear is not fun to play, while it remains effective. I don't play SCH in a hardcore setting so I can't comment on it too much.
    Those all sound like solid ideas.
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  5. #45
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    Arnar Grande
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brightshadow View Post
    As we know Ast is currently the most powerful healer currently in game, but everything does so much damage and we have to focus on cards please don't nerf us instead buff the other two healers independently. I do agree that the specialist should be stronger than the hybrid.
    This is what we hoped would happen with Tanks in SB, and look what happened...
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  6. #46
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    Vincent Highwindus
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    You white mages just want some utility because you guys are the usual afk healer which don't touch a single dps skill and want to be useful for your party, right?
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  7. #47
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caduagm View Post
    You white mages just want some utility because you guys are the usual afk healer which don't touch a single dps skill and want to be useful for your party, right?
    Yes. /10ch
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  8. #48
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    Blueberry Haze
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Whm in which I main is purfectly fine. Actually they consolidated the spells they removed in one. I dps and heal. Glad they removed stance switching and insta cast areo 2. The vocal minority is salty cause they can't do it they old way. I could go on. I love the new way. Just an small learning curve is all.
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  9. #49
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    Kabz Il
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    Spriggan
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    Alchemist Lv 90
    AST has the strongest heals considering the sect bonuses (only loses to Medica II afaik), strongest utility and ridiculously OP shields. They only lose out in personal DPS slightly, and they more than make up for it in every other way.

    WHM seems to be at a decent level, SCH requires more reworking of their abilities than flat out buffs imo. But to say AST doesn't need to be nerfed is just stupid. If they were to buff the other healers to that level, there would be no challenge in playing a healer and even more people would choose to abandon the role out of pure boredom. Nerfs may not be nice, and SE have proven countless times that they can't seem to ever get it right, but leaving AST where it's at right now would be even worse. As a SCH main, there's definitely some salt here, but it's flat out annoying that one job can do everything much better than you. And they can even change sects and play a better version of the other healer too!
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  10. #50
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    Ootarion Astrofengia
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterMan View Post
    I don't think AST needs to be necessarily be nerfed. I think it needs a complete rework.
    Umm why do they need a complete rework?

    Also they are not gonna nerf AST, it would kill the class if they do.
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