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    With the way THM AOE works it would be more suited to buffing and AoE healing as it has much wider and longer cast range, I really hope they go this route.

    As for Red and Blue mage, did you all forget there was a planned fencer class ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    With the way THM AOE works it would be more suited to buffing and AoE healing as it has much wider and longer cast range, I really hope they go this route.

    As for Red and Blue mage, did you all forget there was a planned fencer class ?
    I had actually forgotten haha. I could see Red Mage spur from there, maybe Blue Mage as well. Gotta admit though I liked them using Falchion-type swords in XI :P Which are a sub-type of sword here too. Course Blue Mage could be a stem from the whip-wielding class they mentioned in alpha .dats as well, along with Beastmaster and possibly Summoner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    With the way THM AOE works it would be more suited to buffing and AoE healing as it has much wider and longer cast range, I really hope they go this route.

    As for Red and Blue mage, did you all forget there was a planned fencer class ?
    ehhh i think you just want con to be a blm.

    yeah thaum has a cone, but that also works wonders for damage, annnd con has multiple raises, and curagas, soooo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    ehhh i think you just want con to be a blm.

    yeah thaum has a cone, but that also works wonders for damage, annnd con has multiple raises, and curagas, soooo
    I wouldn't judge what's coming based on the abilities so much right now, 1.20 is bringing ability changes for CNJ and THM. They could easily give the buffs and cures to THM if they wanted. Going by the games lore it makes sense for CNJ to be Black Mage and THM to be White Mage. But like I said before, the 2.0 screenshot has a White Mage using a CNJ weapon. There's really no way the public can tell which will be which by what we have been given for information.

    It's also entirely possible that they will make the Black Mage and White Mage job stones interchangeable between CNJ and THM. We haven't been told they can't yet, only that they are keeping the ratio of job releases 1:1 per class right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    I wouldn't judge what's coming based on the abilities so much right now, 1.20 is bringing ability changes for CNJ and THM. They could easily give the buffs and cures to THM if they wanted. Going by the games lore it makes sense for CNJ to be Black Mage and THM to be White Mage. But like I said before, the 2.0 screenshot has a White Mage using a CNJ weapon. There's really no way the public can tell which will be which by what we have been given for information.

    It's also entirely possible that they will make the Black Mage and White Mage job stones interchangeable between CNJ and THM. We haven't been told they can't yet, only that they are keeping the ratio of job releases 1:1 per class right now.
    actuaaallly lore wise, if thaum was a whm, it would have to be a fairly evil one, who likes killing as much as raising, so it can kill them again.

    Whereas conjurers are your force of life one with the elements nice guys.

    Still none of the lore matters, and they could renege on their obvious preference to make con into a whm. Just because 4 months ago they decided con was whm, doesnt mean they wont switch it up for once an all.

    Still at this point i find it funny all the mages are pointing at the other guy like, oh yeah hes your whm bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    actuaaallly lore wise, if thaum was a whm, it would have to be a fairly evil one, who likes killing as much as raising, so it can kill them again.

    Whereas conjurers are your force of life one with the elements nice guys.

    Still none of the lore matters, and they could renege on their obvious preference to make con into a whm. Just because 4 months ago they decided con was whm, doesnt mean they wont switch it up for once an all.

    Still at this point i find it funny all the mages are pointing at the other guy like, oh yeah hes your whm bro.
    If you do the CNJ quests, they are all about being buddy buddy with the elementals because the elementals are gigantic assholes who would murder you bad if you disrupted the forest, so it's not all peace and love.

    At this point I don't care which DoM gets which Job but I hope we still are able to nuke/heal while as CNJ. I kinda like the all-around-caster feeling CNJ gets and I think it's more fun and suited to a playstyle I like than straight-up BLM/WHM.
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    Last edited by Estellios; 11-02-2011 at 01:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    actuaaallly lore wise, if thaum was a whm, it would have to be a fairly evil one, who likes killing as much as raising, so it can kill them again.

    Whereas conjurers are your force of life one with the elements nice guys.

    Still none of the lore matters, and they could renege on their obvious preference to make con into a whm. Just because 4 months ago they decided con was whm, doesnt mean they wont switch it up for once an all.

    Still at this point i find it funny all the mages are pointing at the other guy like, oh yeah hes your whm bro.
    Actually lorewise, it does make sense. THMs deal with Life AND death. In fact, the two Temples in Ul'dah are dedicated to the god Nald'Thal the dual deity of Life and death. One temple (The THM guild) Is the one dedicated to the death part of Nald'Thal while the second is the opposite. The second temple is very White Mage-y actually. Do some of the quests you get from them. You will see what I mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    actuaaallly lore wise, if thaum was a whm, it would have to be a fairly evil one, who likes killing as much as raising, so it can kill them again.

    Whereas conjurers are your force of life one with the elements nice guys.

    Still none of the lore matters, and they could renege on their obvious preference to make con into a whm. Just because 4 months ago they decided con was whm, doesnt mean they wont switch it up for once an all.

    Still at this point i find it funny all the mages are pointing at the other guy like, oh yeah hes your whm bro.
    Also, CNJ are all about the Elementals. I think I read somewhere before about how BLMs would "Invoke the power of the Elementals' rage" or something along those lines. . . So CNJ's Black magic would be weaker than BLM's because well, CNJs kinda 'ask' and 'conjure up' their powers while the BLM would 'Invoke' or 'Force' the Elements' power.

    But, that is just what I think anyway. . .
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