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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezia View Post
    I always felt like FFXIV has been missing a villain that lasts through expansions and creats a relationship of rivalry with the main character, after the 1st fight with Zenos I was like "yep, this is the guy", but then they ended him too quick :/. It was a good end tho, no "but mommy slaped me in the butt" like Yotsuyu, "I just wanted to save everyone" like Fordola, or "All I do, I do for the great master" like the ascians, nope, Zenos was the way I like, selfish self-centered villain with no background trying to justify his stuff.
    Lyse says at the end that Zenos wasn't born a rabid beast, but was nurtured into one. It was obviously speculation on her part, but it's accurate to at least some extent considering what Elidibus and Varis are saying at the end. It seems like he was supposed to be pitiable, like Yotsuyu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Have the Scions suddenly wonder if they're really allied with a hero, or are you only wearing that title because you kill the things they want you to kill instead of, well, them.
    I think this would have been interesting to see.
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    Zenos is like us. We murdered hundreds of people, animals, spirits and godly beings just to feel good. He even loots enemies of pretty gear, which we all probably have done.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    I agree. And one thing in particular I want to see now is doubt regarding anyone else who has the Echo - because can we be certain it's 'natural' and not infused? And if it's infused, they're likely bad guys as far as we're concerned. Suddenly that Scion with the face paint they said was a 'Walker' is suspicious
    Arenvald? He's been with the Scions since at least 2.0, and he's a Garlean/Ala Mhigan halfbreed. I don't see why there's any reason to think that he's a spy, or that his Echo is artificial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Arenvald? He's been with the Scions since at least 2.0, and he's a Garlean/Ala Mhigan halfbreed. I don't see why there's any reason to think that he's a spy, or that his Echo is artificial.
    I concede it wasn't the best example (and that I didn't remember him lmao). But my point still holds. Until now, anyone having the Echo instantly put them on a certain list, even Ysayle. Her having the Echo made us look at her differently because we didn't think it could've come from anywhere else and the Echo makes you a 'Warrior of Light' - quite the club, eh. That's the kind of group you'd run with.
    Not the case moving forward, however, because we can't be certain if it's the Echo or the Resonance.
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    Zenos was really cool. In the end he got what he wanted.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kukajoo View Post
    He was gone too soon. RIP my friend Zenos. We need a portrait for him and a minion so we can always remember.
    Oh god please! I want a picture of him in my house and a mini wind-up Zenos!
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    Last edited by Kling-Klang; 07-01-2017 at 09:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kling-Klang View Post
    Zenos was really cool. In the end he got what he wanted.

    Oh god please! I want a picture of him in my house and a mini wind-up Zenos!
    Would gladly dedicate an entire L mansion wall to him filled with mounted katana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clethoria View Post
    Would gladly dedicate an entire L mansion wall to him filled with mounted katana.
    I really hope that Ame-no-Murakumo is a reward from Shinryu EX, or at least a glamour piece like the Fortemps shield.
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    Gah I hate him so much and not because he hurt alot of people or was an asshole. But because he killed himself and not me. Single handedly made me hate him and didnt even let me kill him. Just killed him self god damn it.
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    Ren Kurosaki
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    I was quite sad when he decided to take his own life He was such a great villain and the ONLY villain that whooped my character's ass twice! I wish he was there to stay because he would have been my character's arch enemy rival nemesis XD
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