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    Physick II for SMN

    With RDM getting Vercure, I was really hopeful that Physick would be redesigned to work off INT for SMNs as well. In terms of design, I could see this being a challenge to have it spec differently depending on which job the player has chosen. For this reason, SMNs should get a Physick II that replaces Physick.

    Physick II would not change in potency, but would spec off INT and have a higher MP cost to match Vercure.

    This is not a tool for playing a 3rd healer in raids, it's an emergency tool/soloing tool, and SMNs need it more than RDMs. This is because of the loss of Sustain. Running around as a SMN and trying to solo FATEs because there aren't enough people in that particular area, Topaz Carby is extremely helpful in not dying to getting attacked by 2 enemies.

    Now that I can't heal him with sustain, I've been relying on Erase which is gated by a long cooldown. If I had a Physick II, I could heal my tank pet when necessary rather than need to resummon him in order to keep his HP high.
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    You aren't a red mage, stop asking for their toolkit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia View Post
    You aren't a red mage, stop asking for their toolkit.
    Red Mage needs a heal less than Summoners do. They don't have a pet to manage and keep alive to maintain a large chunk of their DPS.

    As for Chocobo healers, I could always spend my seals on plenty of dead peppers to keep enough to switch between healer Chocobo and DPS Chocobo, but right now I prefer DPS just because it's extremely redundant to have a healer Chocobo while I play a healer. I use my companion for more damage, not more healing in that instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Red Mage needs a heal less than Summoners do. They don't have a pet to manage and keep alive to maintain a large chunk of their DPS.
    I'd argue that rdm needs the heal more than smn does when soloing. You said it best that rdm doesnt have a pet to manage, meaning while smn has titan to take hits, rdm doesnt get a mini tank to take aggro off them. The solo balance feels closer than if smn got a tank pet and a heal at the level of vercure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symon17 View Post
    I'd argue that rdm needs the heal more than smn does when soloing. You said it best that rdm doesnt have a pet to manage, meaning while smn has titan to take hits, rdm doesnt get a mini tank to take aggro off them. The solo balance feels closer than if smn got a tank pet and a heal at the level of vercure.
    Titan doesn't take hits and it doesn't maintain aggro. Not in the brave, new SB world of ours. Why do you think every 60+ SMN is asking for a physick buff or sustain back?
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alisi View Post
    Why do you think every 60+ SMN is asking for a physick buff or sustain back?
    Every SMN? I know I'm not asking for it. So your assessment is false. Don't make generalizations. Not every SMN is terrible to the point where their pet is always dying for some unknown reason.

    And no, soloing boss FATEs and PotD were situations where SMN was OP. So these don't count.
    Seriously, of all people asking for Sustain back "because Titan-egi is dying", I've not seen a single post telling why it died. Except once, when someone said that Titan-egi couldn't pull a dozen mobs anymore. But I don't think I have to comment on how silly this reason is.

    So, please, at least don't say that every SMN want it back. That's not true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia View Post
    You aren't a red mage, stop asking for their toolkit.
    They already took ours and one of them they can do better, did they not?

    Although if a situation gets so bad that RDM has to simultaneously raise multiple people it's probably already a wipe at such a point.
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    Ku Rando
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    To an extend, seconded.
    Some people will say, well you have a chocobo companion who can heal a ton, why should having a Physick II matter. Well until the chocobo or any other healer can target a pet effectively, it's down to the SMN to take care of it and this will either work with returning Sustain or providing an improved Physick.
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    Len Orlan
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    Honestly, I'd prefer not to have to heal my pet at all.

    I'd like it if they gave the egi's a trait that when they hit a certain % of health that a single heal+ regen kicks in.
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    Actually, a simpler solution would've been to lower Physick's potency but have it spec off both INT and MND. Ideally the added MND for Summoners and the added INT for Scholars would equalize the lowered potency.

    That or Scholars could've been made INT healers which would've probably fixed a lot of weird issues from day 1 in 2.0.
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