Request: Limiting the number of blatant Game of Thrones references in future?

[MomomiMomi]

You must not have consumed much media, if you think so.

Can you kindly provide some examples then? Comedy won't count.

[Abriael]

Can you kindly provide some examples then? Comedy won't count.

decades of police dramas.

And keep in mind that "partner" isn't the only way that could be used to convey the message. That's just the literal translation.

The issue is that no effort has been made to actually convey the message, which has been simply omitted. That is bad localization.

[MomomiMomi]

decades of police dramas.

And keep in mind that "partner" isn't the only way that could be used to convey the message. That's just the literal translation.

The issue is that no effort has been made to actually convey the message, which has been simply omitted. That is bad localization.

I'm failing to think of a single case in police dramas where someone called their partner anything similar to partner.

Tell me, how could they have conveyed the message then? I feel that them showing us that he has opened up to us fits his character much better than him telling us that he has.

[Abriael]

I'm failing to think of a single case in police dramas where someone called their partner anything similar to partner.

Tell me, how could they have conveyed the message then?

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/partner

Those are just basic examples. Even a super-simple "My friend" while not perfect would have conveyed the concept better than completely omitting it.

I feel that them showing us that he has opened up to us fits his character much better than him telling us that he has.

That's not what localization is. Reasoning like this implies "I know better than the original author what is good for this character." This is authoriship, and a localization employee is not an author.

The fact that a character as reclusive as Estinien comes to the point of actually vocalizing that change makes it much stronger, and very important.

Mind you, many that work in localization will certainly tell you that this is ok or even desirable, and that's because a certain part of that crowd has been trying for years to sell themselves as mini-authors whose creativity should override that of the real authors.

Good localization requires a certain humility, and not all have it.

[Niwashi]

And the odd 'little birds' wouldn't bother me in the slightest; I like the phrase on its own, and it doesn't stick out when it's just once or twice in the whole game (however, I counted three instances of the line in one day of questing recently, which does rather stand out when there are other references to the series everywhere else yet seldom is there a single bird, actual or metaphorical, in sight).

What's being said about a "little bird"? Is it just the "a little bird told me" expression? That's not from GoT. Nor does it have anything to do with actual birds. It's just a commonplace English expression for indicating you know something but are unable or unwilling to identify how you know it. And it's been a common expression since before A Song of Ice and Fire was written.

A book or TV series using a commonplace term or phrase does not make other uses of that phrase a reference to it.

[Serilda]

A book or TV series using a commonplace term or phrase does not make other uses of that phrase a reference to it.

No; it's not the general English phrase "a little bird told me", it's numerous references (by different characters in FFXIV) to "my little birds", in this case specifically referring to a spymaster's hidden network of trusted informants. Obviously the root is identical, but in the context of all of the other references it's difficult for me to read it and not imagine the characters who say it in the series. I mean, few of the words in ASoIaF are completely made-up. It's the popularisation of certain obscure lines and references which are being relentlessly plumbed by the writers here, and I personally think it would be nice if things were dialled back just a little.

As I said in my first post, if they varied the references more (i.e. using a broader mixture of fantasy series as inspiration) it wouldn't be so jarring.

[TaleraRistain]

I don't watch GoT. It's not my speed. So I may have interpreted some of these differently. If it *is* something they are overly focusing on, though, that's a bit annoying because not all their players are fans.

[Kazrah]

I don't watch GoT. It's not my speed. So I may have interpreted some of these differently. If it *is* something they are overly focusing on, though, that's a bit annoying because not all their players are fans.

I don't watch it either, but this thread is kinda making me glad that I don't.

[Theodric]

Dark humor exists.

More at 11

This.

I mean, the game has a huge 'mature themes' label for a reason. People accept that by purchasing the product. Complaining about it afterwards, then, is silly.

[Greedalox]

This.

I mean, the game has a huge 'mature themes' label for a reason. People accept that by purchasing the product. Complaining about it afterwards, then, is silly.

It's no more tasteless than the sex/drugs/booze/murder/genocide found in the game. People just want to be upset sometimes.