Request: Limiting the number of blatant Game of Thrones references in future?

[Niwashi]

I haven't watched the show and haven't gotten very far yet into the books, but a lot of the terms people have mentioned here as references are regular enough terms. I'll assume those same terms get some special notice in GoT, but a lot of it may just be people seeing references where there are none. Just because someone in this game uses a common expression that another character in GoT had also used doesn't make it a reference to that GoT use.

[Kaedan]

They aren't excessive at all. Not sure where this complaint is coming from.

[Meghann]

I personally enjoy them, and get excited when I come across them in game.

[Serilda]

I agree that in isolation none of these references are overwhelming. And the odd 'little birds' wouldn't bother me in the slightest; I like the phrase on its own, and it doesn't stick out when it's just once or twice in the whole game (however, I counted three instances of the line in one day of questing recently, which does rather stand out when there are other references to the series everywhere else yet seldom is there a single bird, actual or metaphorical, in sight). But as has been said, why not 'Final Fantasy' it up a little or at least keep the nudges to non-story elements where they can be appreciated by those who know and ignored by those who are trying to take the game's world-building moderately seriously?

I have a friend who doesn't know about GoT and the in-jokes like the RDM one don't sound clever at all to her, just bewildering. Obviously character names and most popularised period linguistic tics go completely over her head, but I know that our localisation team is clever enough to be able to write their own excellent dialogue without inserting ASoIaF into every possible piece of content just because they love it so darn much.

Anyway, I've taken the quest now so it's not like I'm going to keep crying over it, just wanted to get it off my chest. Glad that at least some of you enjoy it ;p

[Niwashi]

And the odd 'little birds' wouldn't bother me in the slightest; I like the phrase on its own, and it doesn't stick out when it's just once or twice in the whole game (however, I counted three instances of the line in one day of questing recently, which does rather stand out when there are other references to the series everywhere else yet seldom is there a single bird, actual or metaphorical, in sight).

What's being said about a "little bird"? Is it just the "a little bird told me" expression? That's not from GoT. Nor does it have anything to do with actual birds. It's just a commonplace English expression for indicating you know something but are unable or unwilling to identify how you know it. And it's been a common expression since before A Song of Ice and Fire was written.

A book or TV series using a commonplace term or phrase does not make other uses of that phrase a reference to it.

[Serilda]

A book or TV series using a commonplace term or phrase does not make other uses of that phrase a reference to it.

No; it's not the general English phrase "a little bird told me", it's numerous references (by different characters in FFXIV) to "my little birds", in this case specifically referring to a spymaster's hidden network of trusted informants. Obviously the root is identical, but in the context of all of the other references it's difficult for me to read it and not imagine the characters who say it in the series. I mean, few of the words in ASoIaF are completely made-up. It's the popularisation of certain obscure lines and references which are being relentlessly plumbed by the writers here, and I personally think it would be nice if things were dialled back just a little.

As I said in my first post, if they varied the references more (i.e. using a broader mixture of fantasy series as inspiration) it wouldn't be so jarring.

[Daralii]

No; it's not the general English phrase "a little bird told me", it's numerous references (by different characters in FFXIV) to "my little birds", in this case specifically referring to a spymaster's hidden network of trusted informants. Obviously the root is identical, but in the context of all of the other references it's difficult for me to read it and not imagine the characters who say it in the series. I mean, few of the words in ASoIaF are completely made-up. It's the popularisation of certain obscure lines and references which are being relentlessly plumbed by the writers here, and I personally think it would be nice if things were dialled back just a little.

As I said in my first post, if they varied the references more (i.e. using a broader mixture of fantasy series as inspiration) it wouldn't be so jarring.

How does a spy having a network of carrier birds have to be a SoIF reference in regions based on Edo-era Japan and Turkey?

[MrSmiley]

I dont know GOT really, but what are these "little bird" references specifically?

[TaleraRistain]

I don't watch GoT. It's not my speed. So I may have interpreted some of these differently. If it *is* something they are overly focusing on, though, that's a bit annoying because not all their players are fans.

[Kazrah]

I don't watch GoT. It's not my speed. So I may have interpreted some of these differently. If it *is* something they are overly focusing on, though, that's a bit annoying because not all their players are fans.

I don't watch it either, but this thread is kinda making me glad that I don't.