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    FkinFrenchToast's Avatar
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    Toasty Rage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanghelios View Post
    I would say WHM can meld everything but piety. Surely the more piety you have the more mana you get back with Assize, but WHM is literally swimming in mana even without going for piety. They dont really need more. I can see piety being a thing more for ASTs (Not sure about Scholar, havent looked at them that much so far).
    Ast used to have the best management now I'm actually having to give myself ewers lol. Sch has it really bad right now though. Their mp costs are way up making crit adlo pretty unbearable to fish for and they cut aetherflow in half if I'm not mistaken. My group planned for the off heals to go sch for that sweet sweet crit buff, but at it's current state I think sch will be pretty stressful to raid with. Eos isn't able to keep up anymore either. My heart goes out to sch mains lol
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by FkinFrenchToast View Post
    and they cut aetherflow in half if I'm not mistaken.
    They did, but they also have lucid dreaming now. SCH MP recovery now looks a lot like WHM: Lucid every 2 minutes, and a 10% recovery ability every minute with procs that can reduce the CD.


    Quote Originally Posted by FkinFrenchToast View Post
    Eos isn't able to keep up anymore either.
    Eos can still solo heal dungeons if you get a geared enough tank. I know SCH was nerfed but what everyone seems to forget... SCH was best-in-class in a lot of areas too.

    The main thing is AoE DPS, but... for healing SCH is still OK. Any of the healers will struggle with huge pull + low end gear.
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    Kethic Zachrias
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    White Mage Lv 90
    As a WHM, I find myself needing Peity right now in EX content, since groups are still taking lots of unnecessary damage.

    Crit is always nice. Det is likely fairly good for 4.0, but will fall off rapidly with content. Spell Speed is up in the air. I'm currently PIE / CRIT / DET, but will likely swap DET for SpS. I find 320 gear really slow.
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    Kira Matsumoto
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    Goblin
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Kethic View Post
    As a WHM, I find myself needing Peity right now in EX content, since groups are still taking lots of unnecessary damage.

    Crit is always nice. Det is likely fairly good for 4.0, but will fall off rapidly with content. Spell Speed is up in the air. I'm currently PIE / CRIT / DET, but will likely swap DET for SpS. I find 320 gear really slow.
    You must be over healing then, I'm doing just fine, with 20134 Mp as WHM. If you ask me, SpS/Crit for WHM, we have 3 Hots right now and with the buff to hots and dots in 4.0 it a Big jump for us, Iv been solo healing both ex fight just fine. The Crit is nice for the Crit heal and Crit hots.

    But like many have said, there is no wrong way to meld a WHM, it more based on how you play WHM, if your like me and want more powerful hot and bigger Crit you meld/build gear to SpS/Crit.
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    Sir Rawrz
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    They did, but they also have lucid dreaming now. SCH MP recovery now looks a lot like WHM: Lucid every 2 minutes, and a 10% recovery ability every minute with procs that can reduce the CD.




    Eos can still solo heal dungeons if you get a geared enough tank. I know SCH was nerfed but what everyone seems to forget... SCH was best-in-class in a lot of areas too.

    The main thing is AoE DPS, but... for healing SCH is still OK. Any of the healers will struggle with huge pull + low end gear.
    I don't seehow anyone can play a class that gets one free ogcd to weave every 30 seconds. It is the clunkiest thing i have EVER seen. Healers lost their fluidity.

    ABC.

    How can you ABC if you have to stop your gcd to Lustrate? To Indom? To chain strategum? To rouse? To Excog? To sacred Soil? To Energy Drain? Bane? Deployment tactics? Emergency tactics? Fey union? Dissipation??? AND OH Shadowflare now too. You have to clip your GCD every time you want to use your tool kit.

    Sure you can Ruin II + Energy Drain + ability to do it, but you need 0 spell speed in your build to do so... so uh once a minute if you spend an aetherflow on HEALING. Anything else you're better off broiling and just letting your GCD rot. Even blizzard II gave time to weave.

    Speaking of SS. Anyone else realize that the buff they brought into HW with SS affecting DoTs is effectively moot? All the dots are gone. Thinking that it's going to sit behind det this time.

    Playing RDM has that weaving SCH used to have and better. They have Addle. They have instaraise. They have erase to cleanse dots and ogcd heal more than embrace once in a while and they have a 700 potency heal (if they precast) to help save the day in soloheal strats. All on top of mana shift to share the MP wealth.

    If you're disgusted with the new SCH direction play RDM. Might be your new main.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 06-27-2017 at 09:51 AM.

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    Zalchion Dracho
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Rawrz View Post
    If you're disgusted with the new SCH direction play RDM. Might be your new main.
    QFT, started RDM yesterday, it is fun as eff! Have played SCH since the release of SCH and as people have said, i heal because i like SCH, i dont play SCH because i like healing.
    So you just got yet another DPS main, thanks SE ;P

    And for the OP, i think its crit all the way for SCH still.
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