Consolidated Scholar 4.0 Feedback Thread

[AmelieR]

Being the weakest healer doesn't mean we can't heal for shit. It just means that, compared to the other two healing jobs, we heal less for more MP. And that's somewhat unfair considered what WHM and AST offer on healing power AND that Embrace got nerfed (and keep in mind that a 250 potency on a fairy is nothing like a 250 would be on a player). When a hybrid healer (almost in case of WHM) outclasses the original jobs then there's something wrong. And even you, Amaret, can't possibly justiy the existence of the current state of Dissipation and Aetherpact.

All in all, it's not just about the healing numbers. It's about the fun. And the SCH right now makes none - at least for me. I can completely ignore the fairy gauge like in all sub lvl 70 dungeons and wont miss a single thing. That's not exciting. That's plain boring. And stupid, because everything was balanced about that Level 70 SCH trait - which you don't want to use 'cause it's a big pain in the hindquarters.

[Lildragora]

The novelty of SCH was good MP regen with slightly higher costing spells and some raid ultility with sustained damage. All this made sense since it was a shield healer based on a dps job. This job makes no sense anymore. I still play it because its the only one im really interested in.. and it heals content fine despite having shield that sometimes dont matter as the tank takes more hp than it heals and shields for in a single second before I can cast another heal. Even though I waste 90% of my excognitions. Even though my fairy feels way less usable and still clunky. I still play it and find myself hoping that 4.1 makes some step... but im not going to hold my breath. My faith in this games direction is shot to bits already. About the only satisfaction i get is eye for an eye and adlo deployments... and thats not saying much.

[Judge_Xero]

I think the #1 thing Scholar needs for the health of the game is it's AoE capability brought back.

Yeah, outside of this and SCH'S new skill set not synergizing well with its identity the rest of SCH is still pretty solid.

Bring back Bio and keep B2 as instant while reverting the changes to Bane. This will recover a fair amount of AOE and allow for the fluid weaving that makes SCH enjoyable.

I still feel that AST having stronger shields is a non-issue since SCH shields still give enough eHP where necessary but SCH Fairy still offers great utility.

Fey Union + Dissipation is like 3.0 Wanderers and Bloodletter. So counterintuitive as to how the class actually plays. But there is the benefit of a healing buff and if you save the Aether flow for when you re-summon the fairy it's free meter time. So it kind of works if Fey Union wasn't both trash and situational.

[LegoTechnic]

A lot of the SCH's new moves get a bad rep but they aren't that bad. They have problems in actual gameplay, but they're interesting ideas.

Excogitation's issue is in its implementation, because most of the time in actual play it's an added stress. When used prior to a massive tankbuster where you know the tank will go below 50 it's fine, but typically when you use it, which will be as an HP buffer on the tank while you do something else, then you'll often find yourself checking the target's buff list over and over again to see if it actually went off. And then when it does go off, it really doesn't heal all that much on a tank with their high HP pools, so their life meter fluctuates only a little. It is, after all, just a lustrate, and while it can still crit for amazing amounts, it usually won't. Honestly given its cooldown of 60 seconds this move needs to be stronger, because otherwise 50 additional potency and the trigger effect isn't worth the lengthy cooldown compared to ogcd Lustrate, which is both spammable and costs the same stack. Emergency and Deployment Tactics have much more powerful effects on 30 seconds cooldowns, so it's curious as to why Excogitation not only has a cooldown of 60s but also only lasts 30 seconds as a buff for such minimal benefit.

Chain Strategem is a fun idea because enemy debuffs are a rarity, especially among healers, but I feel like we got it to replace the loss of Virus, something I'm still confused about.

Fey Union is kind of funny because its potency is equivalent to player potency, meaning it actually heals at the level of a stronger player Physick, which is good considering standard Embrace is 30% less than it would be from a player. The fairy will also move to within 10y of the target when you use the skill and then move back to the location she was placed at when you cancel it, and that's pretty cool. Its problem though is that if the target moves out of range after the tether activates then she'll sit there and burn charge doing nothing unless they move back in range or you cancel the skill, and that's frustrating as hell. A focus-heal feature for the fairy that turns Embrace into Physick is nice though, despite the ticks still being on embrace's 3-second timer (meaning one heal every 3 seconds), and with proper planning you shouldn't run into out-of-range issues too frequently on the tanks, though because of its restrictive range trying to use it to heal wounded DPS is almost always a crapshoot, and you must always remember to position the fairy in a way that avoids boss cleaves. Still, it's far and away better than Dissipation. Fix the range issue and honestly I'd see myself using it more often, though even now I intend to purposefully make it work, despite its ridiculously asinine start-up time trying to refute me.

[Llynd]

I'm sure we will get buffed soon anyway. Just like they buffed bard /Mch as soon as they released gordias (story). Wait next week or the savage release and we'll see some of our potencies increasing. ( we rly need it tho).

And btw, chain stratagem is great. In raid contents, it increases your group's dps so much. I wouldn't mind a 5% up on the potency tho .
Sacred soil needs to get rid of the aetherstack cost too. We'll never use it otherwise.

[AlphaSonic]

Yeah, outside of this and SCH'S new skill set not synergizing well with its identity the rest of SCH is still pretty solid.

Bring back Bio and keep B2 as instant while reverting the changes to Bane. This will recover a fair amount of AOE and allow for the fluid weaving that makes SCH enjoyable.

I still feel that AST having stronger shields is a non-issue since SCH shields still give enough eHP where necessary but SCH Fairy still offers great utility.

Fey Union + Dissipation is like 3.0 Wanderers and Bloodletter. So counterintuitive as to how the class actually plays. But there is the benefit of a healing buff and if you save the Aether flow for when you re-summon the fairy it's free meter time. So it kind of works if Fey Union wasn't both trash and situational.

The nerf to Bane wasn't a nerf directed to SCH but SMN, their AoE with the new Bahamut is really strong. You need to bring back a DoT but make it only SCH.

[Riyshn]

You need to bring back a DoT but make it only SCH.

I approve of this idea. We even have the Lv40 job quest just kinda sitting there without any skill now that Leeches has been removed. Give us Scald there or something.

Oh! Or Leech, and let it's damage return some HP to the fairy, now that we lost Sustain.

Also, you know, an Enhanced Bane trait to at least partially revert the nerf would be nice.

[carshalash]

Do we happen to have any clue if our stat priority changed?

[Supersun]

Do we happen to have any clue if our stat priority changed?

Gonna need to wait a lot longer before stat weights come out immediately after a new expansion since they tend to rework them. Even then DPS will probably be coming out first. I mean heck it took nearly half of HW before Scholar's numbers came out and people finally realized how nuts spell speed is for DPS.

[Rubiss]

I approve of this idea. We even have the Lv40 job quest just kinda sitting there without any skill now that Leeches has been removed. Give us Scald there or something.

Oh! Or Leech, and let it's damage return some HP to the fairy, now that we lost Sustain.

Also, you know, an Enhanced Bane trait to at least partially revert the nerf would be nice.

What SCH cares about Sustain? If the fairy needs healing, they'll heal themselves. Sustain is not worth the GCD for SCH.