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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    Makes things get old fast. Why out date gear with every new patch or release of content? What happen to an item being worth getting that will last till the max level? Now it's higher level = automatic upgrade, it makes everything lame. Whats the point in DH or stronghold gear when crafted crap > it?
    Hmmm?
    They aren't making all gear outdated when they release new content.... they had to do it from 1.18-1.19 so they could add materia and adjust the stats on the gear. The simplest way to do this was removing it, but hey - at least you were allowed to turn it into materia.


    Btw... not all U/U gear is worthless. Sipahi Turban / Gloves, Sentinel gear, Hex mask, etc.... all drop from Stronghold coffers and they are highly sought after.

    Darkhold gear is semi-worthless but only because you can't materia bind them. I recall them saying they would look into the possibility of melding materia to U/U gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    Or they could farm the items or use the lesser version like anyone else did while leveling up.
    Oh yeah, they could instead be stuck on mediocrity. Wonderful.

    You had good DD's (snipers, jujitsu gi, o kotes) and bad DD's (none of these things). Only jujitsu gi is even remotely in the acceptable range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Oh yeah, they could instead be stuck on mediocrity. Wonderful.

    You had good DD's (snipers, jujitsu gi, o kotes) and bad DD's (none of these things). Only jujitsu gi is even remotely in the acceptable range.
    meh i leveled without them, of course that was close to release, so it was fairly rare. I did try t o farm them but i never got the drop on the rare times when i actually got the pull. But overall it was bad design. This is probably why they had to adjust almost every drop to make it rare ex in ffxi.

    Fact is in the time it would have taken me to get the drop or farm money for these items i could have leveled up, without going crazy.
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  4. #14
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    Not all stronghold gear is bad. The Mask of the Mortal Hex has +20 Attack Magic Potency, which you can't get without attaching 3 INT materia onto a headpiece. I want it so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalmore View Post
    one reason i just ended my sub you mean? WoW is nothing more than run heroics get gear raid wait for next patch run heroics get gear wait for next patch........... and it was al ran together on purpose just like WoW's life cycle so happy I'm done with that boring snoozfest game.

    but on topic. I would really like to see some Key pieces of gear floating around, that lasted a long time ie o. kote, leaping boots, hairpin so on makes those items more epic when you get them. we have one item in game atm kinda like that the Penance Belt lvl 35 ... the only DD belt for a PGL or arch and the best DD belt period since belt materia is non DD.
    Maybe, I quit wow because i got bored of it too, but we are but 2 people in a massive ocean of people when it comes to WoW.

    The fact remains that the majority of those millions are quite happy to do that stuff.

    Obviously If you could show me 1 or 2 million people quitting and effecting the over all average playing I would probably have to agree with you.

    We'll never see gear last like it did in FF11 unless the dev team plans to keep us at lvl 50 for the next 2-3 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye
    Btw... not all U/U gear is worthless. Sipahi Turban / Gloves, Sentinel gear, Hex mask, etc.... all drop from Stronghold coffers and they are highly sought after.
    This !

    Of course Sentinel gear is tradeable and can have materia added to it.
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    Last edited by Jinko; 10-31-2011 at 11:32 PM.

  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by REDace0 View Post
    Not all stronghold gear is bad. The Mask of the Mortal Hex has +20 Attack Magic Potency, which you can't get without attaching 3 INT materia onto a headpiece. I want it so much.
    yeah i notice the stronghold gear is better than the darkhold by and large, they probably feel darkhold gear is easier to obtain.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    yeah i notice the stronghold gear is better than the darkhold by and large, they probably feel darkhold gear is easier to obtain.
    It was, not so much now though lol.

    It's really quite sad that nobody even bothers to run this instance anymore mainly because there is no reason to.

    Like Remvye said hopefully they are considering letting us bind at least one materia to U/U gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    lol by the time you could farm an okote, you were probably the level 75 being an ahole farming a level 34 glove. Or maybe you wre the profiteer blm who had no use for it and would sell it.

    Im sorry but that model wasnt a good one.

    That said we really dont know what the plan is for items, the gear we had got oudated more because the game was drastically changing, than any concrete plan. Also building materia peices will probably last you a very long time, even if some new gear comes out tmr, and its slighty better than your base item, the +3 with 3 materia on it is worth more and more useful until you can make/find a similiarly hqed or materia'd item.

    And to be perfectly honest a heavily materiad item is more unlikely, and takes more resources than any other item out (including ifrits weapons which are no probably fairly common in ul dah)
    When 1.20 hits +# items will make it that much more common to see 2-3 materia slotted items, so BASICALLY we will be wearing the same gear our lifes span if materia runs the market like it is doing now. Why use rare/ex gear? materia +2 on normal gear is better even if they let you slot rare/ex gear. Hopefully things change
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    Quote Originally Posted by RemVye View Post
    Hmmm?
    They aren't making all gear outdated when they release new content.... they had to do it from 1.18-1.19 so they could add materia and adjust the stats on the gear. The simplest way to do this was removing it, but hey - at least you were allowed to turn it into materia.


    Btw... not all U/U gear is worthless. Sipahi Turban / Gloves, Sentinel gear, Hex mask, etc.... all drop from Stronghold coffers and they are highly sought after.

    Darkhold gear is semi-worthless but only because you can't materia bind them. I recall them saying they would look into the possibility of melding materia to U/U gear.
    anythign rare/ex is crap and useless right now. Do not lie to yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manafont View Post
    anythign rare/ex is crap and useless right now. Do not lie to yourself.
    Semi-worthless for now! If they change it... it will be good again, possibly.
    lol.
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