Summoner Over-Nered (and A few other Problems)

[Fyce]

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Why are you comparing two jobs while purposefully leaving these aside:
- The pet sustained damage (!)
- Aetherflow usage (Fester is 900 potency in 15s every minute)
- Ruination+DWT buff
- Deathflare
- Demi-Bahamut 160 potency hits every 1.5s
- Akh Morn hits twice (meaning 2 times per 120s, while "Barrage and Emp arrow" is once every 90s)
- Enkindle which isn't a 3mn cooldown because of Ruin IV procs

SMN is a job which damage comes from all kind of sources. If you don't include half of them, of course it'll seems weak. But that's also completly unfair to do so.
So, stop comparing two jobs if you don't take everything into account. It doesn't serve your point and makes you look like you either don't know what you are talking about, or that you are dishonest.

[Ariomi]

Why are you comparing two jobs while purposefully leaving these aside:
- The pet sustained damage (!)
- Aetherflow usage (Fester is 900 potency in 15s every minute)
- Ruination+DWT buff
- Deathflare
- Demi-Bahamut 160 potency hits every 1.5s
- Akh Morn hits twice (meaning 2 times per 120s, while "Barrage and Emp arrow" is once every 90s)
- Enkindle which isn't a 3mn cooldown because of Ruin IV procs

Same reason I didn't include Raging Strikes, Foe Req, Battle Voice, or The Wanderer's Minuet.
Ahk Morn Can't be used at the start of the fight and it's only possible to buff a single ahk morn. (Contagion doesn't last quite long enough.)
Barrage and Emp can be used instantly at the start of the fight, can be buffed by raging strikes (10%) a song of Bard's choice, and a 10% crit buff.

ahk morn can only be buffed 10%. God Forbid the damage, the direct hit and the crit buff cause emp arrow to direct crit hit for all three strikes. Barrage will have gone through a good chunk of it's cooldown by the time bahamut is ever summoned.

Emp Arrow is 230 potency every 15 seconds or 920 potency per minute. Sidewinder is 260.
I included deathflare. I compared it to Bard's Pitchperfect which is a 20 base potency stronger then deathflare assuming a Bard is able to get three stacks per minute.



If you want to compare Smn buffs to Bard's

Smn has Contagion (10% magic buff for 15 seconds)
Dreadwyrm (10% all damage for 16)
Ruination (Increases ruin by 20 potency... woo)
Radiant Shield (Oh but wait... can't use this on a dummy cause....)

Bard has
Raging Strikes (10% for 20 seconds)
Straighter Shot (10% crit for 20 seconds)
Foe Req (3% damage increase till it runs out)
The Wanderer's Minuet (2% crit buff)
Battle Voice (Direct Hit Buff by 15% for 20)

The ruination debuff is roughly the equivalent of Iron Jaws giving 100 potency when a Bard refreshes their dots.

Oh and did you forget bard can auto attack now? Auto attacks are 100 potency. Garuda's basic auto attack is does about the same damage as a summoner's 100 potency ruin. SO what about the pet's sustained damage? Bard Auto attacks on his own.

Enkindle is a 3 min cooldown factored on Rng. More often then not, It's cooldown is still over two minutes.

[Fyce]

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I listed you some stuff that you missed, and you still managed to ignore some of them. Especially the most important ones. You're definitly dishonest in your argument, only cherry picking what you want.

Stop this pointless comparison between skills. Compare actual full parses.