Summoner Over-Nered (and A few other Problems)

[YitharV2]

It seems like SE didn't like the way SMNs were playing the job.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...3ma/?context=3

It honestly reminds me of this.

It's well worth remembering that Yoshi P has defended the original 2.0 warrior by saying that perhaps the players weren't playing the class the way it was intended to be™. Damn straight, the way players played warrior in 2.0 was to equip the paladin soulstone instead.

[Ariomi]

It seems like SE didn't like the way SMNs were playing the job.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...3ma/?context=3

It honestly reminds me of this.

It was the only way to play the class though. If you wanted to be in the 500 dps range of the nearest machinist you had the same principle of wildfire with dreadwyrm trance. Do as much damage in dreadwyrm as humanly possible...

If players are playing a class one way... and enjoying it... why ruin it? What's wrong with a class having decent dps numbers?

[YitharV2]

It was the only way to play the class though. If you wanted to be in the 500 dps range of the nearest machinist you had the same principle of wildfire with dreadwyrm trance. Do as much damage in dreadwyrm as humanly possible...

If players are playing a class one way... and enjoying it... why ruin it? What's wrong with a class having decent dps numbers?

I agree with you. I feel the same way about Warrior to be honest. I'm actually wondering who's in charge of balance at SE, considering Yoshi-P had to fight to keep Protect.

[SendohJin]

If players are playing a class one way... and enjoying it... why ruin it? What's wrong with a class having decent dps numbers?

Their logic is that low skill players do not know how to play it that way, so when you run into someone like that, they are really really bad at it.

I'm kind of okay with them taking it away but I wish they would give us something to do inside DWT besides casting Ruin 3.

[Ariomi]

Their logic is that low skill players do not know how to play it that way, so when you run into someone like that, they are really really bad at it.

I'm kind of okay with them taking it away but I wish they would give us something to do inside DWT besides casting Ruin 3.

This doesn't fix anything though. If people don't know how to play the class, encourage them to seek out more experienced players of that class...

I ran into a summoner back in HW that didn't know how to death flare... How much do we need our hand held?

[SendohJin]

This doesn't fix anything though. If people don't know how to play the class, encourage them to seek out more experienced players of that class...

That never happens with most people, they've had years of data to support this.

[Silverquick]

It seems like SE didn't like the way SMNs were playing the job.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...3ma/?context=3

It honestly reminds me of this.

I totally saw that coming... If you expand the thread you can see how many people are leaving Summoner.

And I'm noticing fewer and fewer on the server.

[hiedra]

The answers to these questions would all be opinion based, but...

- Do you guys think that SE will be fixing this? Is the Japanese player base as bummed as we are?
- If SE does fix this will we be stuck waiting until 5.0 for the fixes?

I loved Summoner, but I'm not sure I like it now. I'm still leveling it to 70 just to see how it plays at max level, but I don't know. The lower DPS I could tolerate if the new rotation were at least fun, but right now it just feels like I'm spamming ruin more than ever.

[Mature]

I'm loving SMN right now specially having this Bahamut thingy.

I wouldn't mind getting miasma 2 back

[Bigcat9715]

Actually, currently Smn is just behind Samurai in the way of Dps. This is the chart of all the dps jobs that been parsed

also a video of a Smn destroying a SSS dummy. Link