Why all the Hate? People Its called change embrace

[JunseiKei]

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Should probably get WHM up higher. Our MP management is off the charts thanks to lilies and their traits. Use your skills right and you can have a huge amount of DPS uptime. If anything, I truly fear the amount of overheal WHMs will have due to Assize coming off cooldown so fast. Thin Air is an amazing blessing, too.

Having played WHM since beta of 2.0, well into 3.0 and finally here in 4.0, the job finally got what it desperately needed the most: MP management tools on par with SCH and AST.

[akaneakki]

Dark Knight changes seem very lackluster and look more like nerfs to me.

I just hope the dps checks and rotations aren't so mind boggling. I'm having a difficult time dealing with the quick moving aoe markers that started being all the rage.

DRk lost its ID as DRK. No shadowskin but rampart PLD only used to have. Some of this stuff makes DRK look less DRK.

[Faliandra]

AST gauge is BS since I cant click off single cards anymore and also...No one but myself can see my cards.

If im teamed up with another AST,i cant even check what they got to make sure I dont overwrite their cards, and neither can they.

Even my bard friend mentioned that without me bringing it up "kinda sucks I dont see your cards so I could prepare accordingly too"


If they wanna keep the gauge, FINE, but give me the option to have my cards show up in the buff bar like it used to be.

[Serilda]

Should probably get WHM up higher. Our MP management is off the charts thanks to lilies and their traits.

Oh I agree some things are good. It's the general adaptability and low level stuff I hate (no Stoneskin at lower levels and no alternatives to AST/SCH abilities mean I cannot justify bringing WHM to FC lowman/min ilevel challenges at all, which feels dumb - they actually made this problem worse in SB). And the lily/confession stuff needs a lot of tuning. The fact that a small number of our mechanics work brilliantly doesn't make me any less sad that the rest are sort of missing/useless; in comparison AST feels pretty wonderful aside from a few obvious bugs.

I'm not playing WHM on purpose outside of PVP until the mechanics are retuned but I'm sure it's perfectly fine in its specific niches. It's just that I like jobs to feel brilliant in different ways, not uselessly-good-at-overhealing/AoE damage - neither of which matter in a lot of content - versus generally-good-at-everything. They've messed up on the satisfaction factor, rather than the raw performance factor.

[Kallera]

DRk lost its ID as DRK. No shadowskin but rampart PLD only used to have. Some of this stuff makes DRK look less DRK.

I haven't seen anything yet that really interests me while lvling DRK. bloodspiller and Quietus seem forgettable in the grand scheme of lowering damage and keeping hate.

[Felis]

AST gauge is BS since I cant click off single cards anymore and also...No one but myself can see my cards.

http://xivdb.com/action/9629/undraw

[Revanslave]

It took me awhile to get used to the SMN changes, but overall I'm starting to like them. Obviously there's stuff I dislike about the changes but overall, it's been good. I do hate that I can't shadowflare as often as I want (when tanks...for some unknown reason move enemies out of it lol). I really like the new guage though. There have been times I used Aetherflow when I already had it up, but getting used to the new guage quickly fixed that problem. All I hear people say is that the nerfed it so much it's unplayable and I just think...you must not be very good then because I'm still mowing down hordes.

[Talraen]

I think people are way too focused on specifically what was removed or added, and not considering the greater implications of the changes to the combat system. As a White Mage, I feel like the class has been buffed significantly by the removal of Cleric Stance (which makes Assize far better) and the massive increase in MP regeneration (between Thin Air and Assize's reduced recast). But all you hear about is all our abilities becoming role abilities, how useless Lilies are, and not gaining utility. Having neverending MP and significant direct damage counts for nothing, I guess.

Also I've heard almost every job referred to as "nerfed" because of lost abilities. Every job lost abilities! This was a massive change to combat, and you can't judge it in the context of HW vs. SB, because it wasn't just your job that changed.

Seriously, stop focusing on what you lost and focus on how your job plays now. And if anything really is legitimately unbalanced, they'll change it. Sheesh. (To clarify, by all means complain about issues with your job, but determine what the issues are through gameplay, not a comparison of new and old.)

[Ibi]

I have just been looking through the job pages and all i can see is whining and bi*ching about how people need to look at the new gauges.
1) they are designed to make life easier and i for one think they do this wonderfully.

I think the biggest issue with the new gauges in that cases they don't really meet the stated intent:

Previously, you would need to pay attention to buff icons and how many you have stacked to keep up with the status of your job. By implementing a graphical reference to show which state you are it should make simple for players to grasp.

Many (if not all) of the job gauges don't incorporate all the buffs that a job has (e.g. Warrior's Storm's Eye buff is still present on the buff bar, not the job gauge).

As a result, you're still having to pay attention to the buff bar like you were Heavensward, but now you have to pay attention to the job gauges in addition to that, when before that information was all in the same location.

[Andevom]

I'm a DRG and I never once cried over Feint. The new Feint is orders of magnitude more useful.