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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChemicalCat View Post
    E: Additionally I fail to see the point of Excogitation. While it would have been extremely useful in heavensward, Stance dancing is no longer a thing and thus, Excogitation just seems like a waste when I have Lustrates right here. It should either have an additional effect, or not cost aetherflow.
    Tank buster use, I think. You use it as a pre-emptive heal that heals for more than a Lustrate would. (650 vs. 600)

    Personally I feel SCH is fine with 4.0 HOWEVER I am a little confused at why Astrologian is able to do everything a SCH can but just as good or better (Adloquium and Succor's vs. the Aspected AST versions)... what is the point of that? Shouldn't the shielding healer that has shielding as their main healing style do it better than the one that has 'hybrid' written all over them? I can't be the only one that feels like they adjusted Astrologian without even thinking about how the other healers would end up. I think a boost to potencies for both Adlo and Succor would help though.
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    Last edited by zeopower6; 06-22-2017 at 07:33 PM.

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    Marisha White
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    Another use for Excogitation is when HP is lower than 50%. It will heal immediately , so it's a more potent Lustrate in that case.

    And I honestly don't get why people are so upset about Stratagem. It's a flat +15% crit chance for all party. Did several tests yesterday, and it increased my crit chance from about 20% to almost 35%.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mairissa View Post
    And I honestly don't get why people are so upset about Stratagem. It's a flat +15% crit chance for all party. Did several tests yesterday, and it increased my crit chance from about 20% to almost 35%.
    I think it's because that's all it does, meaning it's just Battle Litany.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChemicalCat View Post
    I think it's because that's all it does, meaning it's just Battle Litany.
    It'd help a good bit with DPS checks. I don't see anything wrong with Strategem. Would have been nice for it to be 20% like in the tour build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheChemicalCat View Post
    I think it's because that's all it does, meaning it's just Battle Litany.
    And why is it bad? It ' a good party synergy for burning phases, direct damage buff. Combined with battle litany it guarantees very high crit rate, around 60%, if not more.
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    The one complaint I saw for Strategem was people thinking it was multiplicative rather than additive. But that seems unfounded now.
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  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mairissa View Post
    And why is it bad? It ' a good party synergy for burning phases, direct damage buff. Combined with battle litany it guarantees very high crit rate, around 60%, if not more.
    Ideally you'd basically have Litany + Strategem + Bard's Crit and Direct Hit buff up at once for maximum damage for a party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mairissa View Post
    And why is it bad? It ' a good party synergy for burning phases, direct damage buff. Combined with battle litany it guarantees very high crit rate, around 60%, if not more.
    My fear is that it will be the one skill everyone cries is op and it'll be why we stay as bad off as we are now because the thought of scholar buffs if we are allowed to keep stratagem...oh you don't need to heal better you have this awesome utility no other healer has etc etc.
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  9. #69
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsTanya View Post
    My fear is that it will be the one skill everyone cries is op and it'll be why we stay as bad off as we are now because the thought of scholar buffs if we are allowed to keep stratagem...oh you don't need to heal better you have this awesome utility no other healer has etc etc.
    AST has their cards AND they have more potent shields than SCH. I think they would def. let us keep Strategem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeopower6 View Post
    AST has their cards AND they have more potent shields than SCH. I think they would def. let us keep Strategem.

    You say that as if healer balance has made any sense for the last few patches.
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