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    LegoTechnic's Avatar
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 80
    A lot of the SCH's new moves get a bad rep but they aren't that bad. They have problems in actual gameplay, but they're interesting ideas.

    Excogitation's issue is in its implementation, because most of the time in actual play it's an added stress. When used prior to a massive tankbuster where you know the tank will go below 50 it's fine, but typically when you use it, which will be as an HP buffer on the tank while you do something else, then you'll often find yourself checking the target's buff list over and over again to see if it actually went off. And then when it does go off, it really doesn't heal all that much on a tank with their high HP pools, so their life meter fluctuates only a little. It is, after all, just a lustrate, and while it can still crit for amazing amounts, it usually won't. Honestly given its cooldown of 60 seconds this move needs to be stronger, because otherwise 50 additional potency and the trigger effect isn't worth the lengthy cooldown compared to ogcd Lustrate, which is both spammable and costs the same stack. Emergency and Deployment Tactics have much more powerful effects on 30 seconds cooldowns, so it's curious as to why Excogitation not only has a cooldown of 60s but also only lasts 30 seconds as a buff for such minimal benefit.

    Chain Strategem is a fun idea because enemy debuffs are a rarity, especially among healers, but I feel like we got it to replace the loss of Virus, something I'm still confused about.

    Fey Union is kind of funny because its potency is equivalent to player potency, meaning it actually heals at the level of a stronger player Physick, which is good considering standard Embrace is 30% less than it would be from a player. The fairy will also move to within 10y of the target when you use the skill and then move back to the location she was placed at when you cancel it, and that's pretty cool. Its problem though is that if the target moves out of range after the tether activates then she'll sit there and burn charge doing nothing unless they move back in range or you cancel the skill, and that's frustrating as hell. A focus-heal feature for the fairy that turns Embrace into Physick is nice though, despite the ticks still being on embrace's 3-second timer (meaning one heal every 3 seconds), and with proper planning you shouldn't run into out-of-range issues too frequently on the tanks, though because of its restrictive range trying to use it to heal wounded DPS is almost always a crapshoot, and you must always remember to position the fairy in a way that avoids boss cleaves. Still, it's far and away better than Dissipation. Fix the range issue and honestly I'd see myself using it more often, though even now I intend to purposefully make it work, despite its ridiculously asinine start-up time trying to refute me.
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    Last edited by LegoTechnic; 06-26-2017 at 05:55 PM.

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    Rebecca Prairillot
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    480 pet potency is weaker than 400 player potency
    and in the media tour build excog was in a good state but they nerfed it
    o
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    Seolla Viltara
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    Quote Originally Posted by tikiwiki View Post
    480 pet potency is weaker than 400 player potency
    and in the media tour build excog was in a good state but they nerfed it
    o
    Fey Union operates with player potency, not pet potency. Test if out for yourself, it is very much an actual 480 pot in-game.

    Embrace and Whispering Dawn both operate at pet potency though, so only Fey Union is unique.
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    M'yana Thul
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    Fey Union operates with player potency, not pet potency. Test if out for yourself, it is very much an actual 480 pot in-game.

    Embrace and Whispering Dawn both operate at pet potency though, so only Fey Union is unique.
    That is just NOT true. Physick (400) heals or me for ~7500 and Fey Union (480) for ~5500. Fey Union can crit for ~8500 but that's the exception, not the rule. Maybe you should test it out for yourself first?

    Edit: On top of that it seems that Fey Union isn't affected by Rouse or Fey Illumination since it's an ability. I did test it and noticed an increased heal with Embrace, but not with Fey Union, rendering that skill even more useless.
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    Last edited by AmelieR; 06-27-2017 at 07:05 AM.

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    Tanya Fierlaine
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegoTechnic View Post
    Fey Union operates with player potency, not pet potency. Test if out for yourself, it is very much an actual 480 pot in-game.

    Embrace and Whispering Dawn both operate at pet potency though, so only Fey Union is unique.
    Fey union heals for 5.5k per tick at ilvl314 physick does 7300 and its 480potency for tether 400potency for physick, it is NOT player potency based.
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    Last edited by MsTanya; 06-27-2017 at 11:52 AM.

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    Lynk Lloyd
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I'm sure we will get buffed soon anyway. Just like they buffed bard /Mch as soon as they released gordias (story). Wait next week or the savage release and we'll see some of our potencies increasing. ( we rly need it tho).

    And btw, chain stratagem is great. In raid contents, it increases your group's dps so much. I wouldn't mind a 5% up on the potency tho .
    Sacred soil needs to get rid of the aetherstack cost too. We'll never use it otherwise.
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    Carshalash Jakkya
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    Botanist Lv 70
    Do we happen to have any clue if our stat priority changed?
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    Felix Feliday
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by carshalash View Post
    Do we happen to have any clue if our stat priority changed?
    Gonna need to wait a lot longer before stat weights come out immediately after a new expansion since they tend to rework them. Even then DPS will probably be coming out first. I mean heck it took nearly half of HW before Scholar's numbers came out and people finally realized how nuts spell speed is for DPS.
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    Struka Windtide
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    Scholar Lv 60
    my main problem with excog is that our best healing is already highly gated. We needed another atherflow using heal why? One that might waste a Atherflow stack? I will stick to Lustrate ty as for fey union its useful for pumping out maximum tank heals when they need it.
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    Freja Reginleif
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    Odin
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Make Broil 230 potency and make Broil II a 100 potency aoe move (both skills exist next to each other). Fix Bane to the previous status by giving Scholar a Bane trait. Make Excog not cost a stack but a higher cooldown timer and all is well with Scholar.
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    Last edited by Starflake; 06-26-2017 at 11:21 PM.

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