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    Erakir Pompop
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    If a WHM is timing their cure 2 to land right after the TB, no healer is going to be fast enough to rob the WHM of their Lily, and even if they were, there is supposed to be coordination between healers in raids and savage, am I correct?
    Actually, not in this case, because it appears that lilies do not generate on precasted heals. I've seen a few report this, and have noticed it myself but haven't done extensive testing. If the recipient's HP isn't sub-100% locally before the cast goes off but the heal lands on the server after the tankbuster like you want, no flower for you - but again that's with my limited testing so far. I've specifically tried it a few times, but don't want to state it as fact yet.

    That I also seem to get lilies before the heal registers back from the server makes me think this is done a bit more locally in general than I'd like, as if the client doesn't tell the server to check and grant a lily unless the client itself sees a non-overheal. Similar to benediction going on CD but the heal not landing in time on the server's end.

    I'm going to have to play more to see how much you'll actually have to "delay" a precasted heal to get a lily out of it if it is indeed true. Which would suck, as it penalizes good play, and the good ol' combo of tankbuster + autoattack is something you try to prevent as much as possible with good timing. I take pride in landing heals precise enough that the tank doesn't even notice their HP drop for even a fraction of a second, and it's unfortunate if I'll be penalized for that, now.

    I'd rather they just remove the overheal component, at least on cure 2, as a workaround for that. No one's going to be spamming that for lilies in nearly all scenarios. Cures, maybe, but Cure 2s? Super unlikely. Even with cures, I wouldn't see the big deal. Savage healers are going to be spending that time doing damage rather than farming lilies at a 50% chance, so I don't see any significant balance coming out of it except not feeling like you've been robbed of quite as many flowers.
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    Last edited by Erakir; 06-22-2017 at 06:30 AM.