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  1. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    "people" is a big word. The content of this thread is hardly the expression of "what people desire." It's expresses what a few individuals desire.
    Good thing that's not up to you to decide.
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  2. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    even more duff
    Actually I provided my piece that Id like this race to happen and even said previously that Im hopeful but not expecting it and left it at that. I have not repeated my statements unlike you which your tired old gig even drags into the viera thread.

    Also I stick around this thread because I hold interest in the topic and would enjoy if lupins became a player race and thus would like to see what others think so I should leave why? You just stick around just to keep telling people it cant happen. Youre probably the most stale piece of Balmungian bread on the forum.
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  3. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by KazumaFaemura View Post
    I'm not stating that they are a beast tribe and that's not the point I'm attempting to get across. I'm just saying within the confines of the game as we know now, the Au'Ra are from Doma and across the Ruby Sea, yet ours just starts as any other race. It clashes with the game as a whole.
    Only it does not. Simply because there is no part in the current dialogue that clashes with the idea of a Doman or a Au Ra to be the warrior of light. The world isn't a series of airtight compartments. People travel and the fact that Domans and Au Ra simply did not appear in the game before their implementation doesn't mean that they didn't exist in Eorzea. They simply weren't depicted. Just like half-breeds always existed and exist in Eorzea even before Hylda was implemented.

    On the other hand, the existing dialogue of the game makes a point to indicate beast tribes as something alien and extraneous to the warrior of light and his companions basically all the way through the story of 1.0 to 4.0. That story doesn't go away (1.X aside), and is still fully playable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rysir View Post
    Also I stick around this thread because I hold interest in the topic and would enjoy if lupins became a player race and thus would like to see what others think so I should leave why? You just stick around just to keep telling people it cant happen. Youre probably the most stale piece of Balmungian bread on the forum.
    Oh, how cute, a little random personal attack. I stick around because I'm interested in the discussion. I'm interested in the long-term success of this game, and I believe that the implementation of the lupin over potentially much more popular races would be detrimental to that. The implementation of a new race is a big deal visibility and promotion-wise, and I'm definitely interested in seeing that exploited as best as possible, because that means a game that I'll enjoy longer, with more resources and by consequence more content for me and everyone else.

    As you have your interests, I have mine, and I'll argue my points as much as I deem necessary, with or without your permission.

    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    Good thing that's not up to you to decide.
    Nope. It's not up to me to decide. The fact that this thread represents just the desire of individuals and not "the people" is simply a fact.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 06-22-2017 at 03:03 AM.

  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Oh, how cute, a little random personal attack. I stick around because I'm interested in the discussion, and I'm interested in the long-term success of this game, and I believe that the implementation of the lupin over potentially much more popular race would be detrimental to that. As you have your interest, I have mine, and I'll argue my point as much as I deem necessary.
    Being called stale bread named after your server is a personal attack? Im almost positive you are just acting up to get the thread locked now. You must be fun at parties.
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rysir View Post
    Being called stale bread named after your server is a personal attack? Im almost positive you are just acting up to get the thread locked now. You must be fun at parties.
    Sounds like they are scared that the devs would make the Lupin playable instead of the waifu Elzen with bunny ears stabled on their head tbh.

    I would prefer Ronzo over Lupin, much more my type.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berret_Snowbear View Post
    Sounds like they are scared that the devs would make the Lupin playable instead of the waifu Elzen with bunny ears stabled on their head tbh.

    I would prefer Ronzo over Lupin, much more my type.
    I'd take Ronso if they gave us Ronso.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    you should probably realize that WoW is in an entirely different situation with its audience and resources. They have a much larger active crowd, which makes catering to smaller niches still profitable, and a lot more inertia and critical mass which means that they don't need as many marketing crutches to stay afloat. A minority of the WoW playerbase is a hell of a lot bigger than a minority of the FFXIV playerbase.
    You love double standards, I see. You brought up saying that WoW has similar stats (I would love to see them, last time I played, Horde and Alliance were quite evenly split, and blood elves were nowhere near the plurality of the Horde.) You brought up WoW as one of your validation points, you cant now dismiss it without dismissing your inclusion of it in your counter point.
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  8. #178
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rysir View Post
    Being called stale bread named after your server is a personal attack? Im almost positive you are just acting up to get the thread locked now. You must be fun at parties.
    Differently from you, I don't go around calling people names, so if there's someone who would be contributing to have the thread locked, that'd be you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ogulbuk View Post
    You love double standards, I see. You brought up saying that WoW has similar stats (I would love to see them, last time I played, Horde and Alliance were quite evenly split, and blood elves were nowhere near the plurality of the Horde.) You brought up WoW as one of your validation points, you cant now dismiss it without dismissing your inclusion of it in your counter point.
    WoW's stats certainly show that the less a race looks human, the less popular it is. You brought that comparison to an improper territory, which is a commercial/marketing discourse. That doesn't apply due to the massively different commercial situation between the two games. As a "game dev yourself" you should know that without me telling you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Berret_Snowbear View Post
    Sounds like they are scared that the devs would make the Lupin playable instead of the waifu Elzen with bunny ears stabled on their head tbh.
    I certainly would like to see the potentially most popular race implemented, simply because it's good for the game as a whole (more subs -> more money -> more content for everyone, for a longer time). And that race certainly isn't furry humanoid with a dog face, or any animal face, really. I don't even care for viera. Not a single bit. But it's not hard to recognize that it'd be good for promoting FFXIV. As for being "scared," as much as you try to imply that to attempt (and fail) to discredit a position you have no arguments to counter, that's hardly the case. Can't be scared of something that has nearly zero chances to happen.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExKage View Post
    I'd take Ronso if they gave us Ronso.
    I'll Fantasia all of my Roes into Ronso! I only have Roes. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berret_Snowbear View Post
    Sounds like they are scared that the devs would make the Lupin playable instead of the waifu Elzen with bunny ears stabled on their head tbh.

    I would prefer Ronzo over Lupin, much more my type.
    Id be down with Ronso if Lupin is a no go honestly. And if the smile is like that prize winner scene in 10 then thats just bonus ducks
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