Lupin - make it a playable race!

[KazumaFaemura]

No thanks. I think that they shouldn't have even been added as NPCs. It feels weird being in a world of humans and slightly-not-really-humans-with-tails to see a huge doggo just living in a town. I know some people like more beast-like races, but it just wouldn't be the same when we've all used human-like races since the start of the game. I would like to see mi'qote and au ra revisited or something, to make them less human-y. Maybe mi'qote could get more fur options and au ra more scales, little less human. But I honestly don't see this race happening, but that's probably just me.

Meh it doesn't feel so out of place for me as a fan of Final Fantasy in general, I mean we already have the beast tribes that interact with various races so if take that into account it's not that much different.

[floofuf]

Final Fantasy in general? Not out of place. FFXIV? Out of place. Everywhere you look in a town like Limsa Lominsa you see humans, big humans, small pointy-eared humans, big pointy-eared humans, cat-eared humans, and humans with horns. Emphasis on humans. Lupin are not human like. They are literally a beast, but more civilized. They're like the civilized beast tribes we encounter. And we don't play as those. In my opinion, they aren't very pleasant to look at because of that. They're already out of place living with humans, but oh well. Too late to change that now.

[KazumaFaemura]

Final Fantasy in general? Not out of place. FFXIV? Out of place. Everywhere you look in a town like Limsa Lominsa you see humans, big humans, small pointy-eared humans, big pointy-eared humans, cat-eared humans, and humans with horns. Emphasis on humans. Lupin are not human like. They are literally a beast, but more civilized. They're like the civilized beast tribes we encounter. And we don't play as those. In my opinion, they aren't very pleasant to look at because of that. They're already out of place living with humans, but oh well. Too late to change that now.

Yet there is Quqirn shop keep there and a Marmal jool there interacting with a shop keep as well in Limsa

[KisaiTenshi]

Final Fantasy in general? Not out of place. FFXIV? Out of place. Everywhere you look in a town like Limsa Lominsa you see humans, big humans, small pointy-eared humans, big pointy-eared humans, cat-eared humans, and humans with horns. Emphasis on humans. Lupin are not human like. They are literally a beast, but more civilized. They're like the civilized beast tribes we encounter. And we don't play as those. In my opinion, they aren't very pleasant to look at because of that. They're already out of place living with humans, but oh well. Too late to change that now.

Overthinking it.

We've had Goblins, Kobolds, Sylph's, and Moogles all be a part of MSQ as friendlies. Especially the post-moogle. Idyllshire has goblins everywhere. A similar thing exists with the Kojin.

The only reason why X is not a playable race, despite there being models in the game for, is that they don't have customization. All the beast tribes clearly have some variation on "caster, healer, lancer, ranger" but you'll notice the only thing that makes them that is their weapon. They have no other gear.

Final Fantasy in general, I'd say that it's not out of place to have playable characters that aren't fully human (see FFIX) but it would be out of place to have races that aren't "human enough"

In the context of FFXIV, I think they likely initially wanted something more like what the Lupin are, before the Au Ra became final, but decided that "yet another miqo'te" wouldn't be different enough, and the customization would be too complicated.

Like, there's exactly two models for the Lupin seen thus far, the villager, and the imperial. They have their own "random enemy NPC" just like the bandit/pirate camps in every area. The playable-races all have variety (though the majority of NPC Roe are green.)

[floofuf]

Overthinking it.

Overthinking it? Heh. Yes they're in towns, but the players don't play as them, and they make up the majority of towns (unless you're in the buttcrack of Nowhereville). All those beast tribes are little, you don't see a mountain of a beast. It makes no sense that Lupin would even be a beast tribe. They're just NPCs to give the game some lore and interesting characters.

Quite frankly I don't even understand why Au Ra were added. It makes no sense because you don't see any at all in ARR, and very little in HW. If they add Lupin, they'll also suffer the same fate of not making sense lore-wise. I think they won't fit in at all with the playable races we have now.

To the people that say that we should get more humanized Lupin, that's never going to happen. It wouldn't fit in with how the current Lupin look, and would probably be just a let down. I don't see this race, or even Viera, ever getting added. If a race does get added, it's probably be Viera. They're more pleasant-looking anyways.

[DracotheDragon]

Like, there's exactly two models for the Lupin seen thus far, the villager, and the imperial. They have their own "random enemy NPC" just like the bandit/pirate camps in every area. The playable-races all have variety (though the majority of NPC Roe are green.)

another point to you is, the animation skeleton of the Lupin is shared with the male miqo'te thus there clawed stance, but using the au ra as an example with yugiri when we first met her her horns were coverd, and her tail was hidden. as features became more decided upon they edited the live model to reflect that, by making her horns non bendy (which people thought were rabbit ears) adding a tail that became longer, and so on.

this could be the same in the lupins shoes, while the model we have now is only one thing we are talking a playable race 2 years from now, and over time the lupin could change into a more fitting race of people. only time can tell.

[Nestama]

Final Fantasy in general? Not out of place. FFXIV? Out of place. Everywhere you look in a town like Limsa Lominsa you see humans, big humans, small pointy-eared humans, big pointy-eared humans, cat-eared humans, and humans with horns. Emphasis on humans. Lupin are not human like. They are literally a beast, but more civilized. They're like the civilized beast tribes we encounter. And we don't play as those. In my opinion, they aren't very pleasant to look at because of that. They're already out of place living with humans, but oh well. Too late to change that now.

Limsa Lominsa is the only major city to actually have Beastmen hanging out with the human peoples. Mamool Ja in the Arcanist guild, Qiqirn merchant in market place and the goblin in the Aetheryte plaza. While not a lot, Limsa Lominsa is probably the last place to use for an argument about "out of place" races :P

[DreadRabbit]

Wanted to add a point I rarely ever see in these sorts of threads.

Miqo'te aren't just popular because "furry waifu!": they're popular because they're one of the few races that actually look "good" (in quotes 'cause beauty's subjective) no matter what face you pick. They're one of the few races that you can't tell right away what face was used by looking at a character. Each of the four faces for both genders of Miqo'te were designed well and offer enough changes with their smaller details that if you like playing as a cat person, you can almost never go wrong designing one. Add this to the fact that their ears and tails will match whatever hair color you pick, and you can have a pretty unique looking Miqo'te.

The only other race that has that much flexibility in terms of "choice of good looking faces" seem to be the Au Ra and the Hyur, but the Au Ra have the unfortunate characteristic that you can't pick which horns you have since they're attached to the face. And you can't change the color of their scales/horns (I know it wouldn't fit the lore, but I feel like we if can put face paint on that covers our face scales you could have Au Ri warriors that painted their scales too. Or even treat them like tattoos) or change the patterns of the scales on your body. Au Ra are my favorite but you can tell instantly which customization features people used, which may lend to them not being as popular (which surprised me! I feel like I see Au Ra everywhere, so those charts earlier in the thread are kind of shocking).

Highlander Hyur and Roes just weren't given nearly as many options face wise that "look good" to a lot of people. Like...why in the world do all of the highlander lady faces have those deep shadows on their eyes except for one face? And why have all the different eye shape "options" if I can't pick one to get rid of those? Or add the deep shadows to the face that doesn't have them? That's just one example. And Roe ladies are gorgeous, but more often than not they're all using the same face option.

This is why I'm in the camp that while I'm all for more races, I want more customization to come to what exists already. Because if it doesn't, that's only going to hurt the viability of whatever race comes next. The Miqo'te and Hyur don't necessarily have more options than everyone else, but all of their options are flexible and and have a big impact on your character's design. The other races (especially the Highlanders and the Roes) need this kind of love desperately.

[Sharksandrew]

We really need a new race of some sort. Lupin or not just feels boring with all the "human" looking races.

[Kosmos992k]

We really need a new race of some sort. Lupin or not just feels boring with all the "human" looking races.

Your character in your forum profile picture looks far from 'human' to me. How much more inhuman do you need?