Compensation for the early Sub fee

[Liniont]

Many of the players aren't happy with the announcement of the early subscription fee. I for one still find enjoyment in Eorzea and enough I think to pay for a subscription fee. I also love being apart of a game that’s slowly building to something great and seeing what was and what is now. Final Fantasy XIV has come so far thanks to Yoshi-p and his team. But this isn’t why I’m writing this post, I’m writing this post because unfortunately we will be getting charged full price monthly for an unfinished product.

So my suggestion is while we will be paying $12.99 or more a month for an unfinished product we the customer do not want to be kept in the dark any longer. For us subscribers we would like exclusives. During the PS2 release of FFXI there was a nifty little app on the community website called “Vana’diel Winds.” For those that don’t know what this app was or still is (I say was because it no longer works for me). This app connected potential new players and others to a live feed of a hidden camera flying throughout the world of Vana’diel, which showcased the game and the activities within.

I propose something similar but within the developer’s office, we would like to watch you all work on v2.0 almost like we watch sports on television or a reality TV show without the commentary or “drama” just work like you have been day by day and forget the camera’s are there. Set up live 24/7 webcam feeds behind key members of the developing team including over Yoshi-p’s desk and all meetings with adequate audio and video. We want to see the inner workings and provide our own play by plays and speculation. Also post on a blog all concept art and someone who will show us video footage of current in house builds and shows us what’s been changed and what bugs are there and where progress is on v2.0.

We can’t just rely on a promise from Square Enix anymore we are investing our money in to this project so like the concerned investor we want to see what’s going on. If the community agrees with this and would be willing to pay IF they implement this then please bring traffic to this post.

Of course after v2.0 is out you can stop the live feeds, but don’t forget we’ve stuck around and remember us a veterans so compensate us with something in game via items or exclusives? Maybe an open public test server and everyone who stays and pays from the beginning of the subscription fee up to release of v2.0 will be first pick when requesting beta patch testers. Also this would be how you determine who are veterans by who’s stayed within that period of time.

[Alerith]

I'm gonna be paying the sub to enjoy the game, but stuff like this bothers me.

If they give us an exclusive item or something BESIDES the content they are already making exclusive, cool, I'll take it, whatever.

But this sense of entitlement is pretty stupid. Seriously, if you don't feel it's worth it without something shiny being thrown at you, then just stop playing until 2.0.

[Aion]

I propose something similar but within the developer’s office, we would like to watch you all work on v2.0 almost like we watch sports on television or a reality TV show without the commentary or “drama” just work like you have been day by day and forget the camera’s are there. Set up live 24/7 webcam feeds behind key members of the developing team including over Yoshi-p’s desk and all meetings with adequate audio and video. We want to see the inner workings and provide our own play by plays and speculation. Also post on a blog all concept art and someone who will show us video footage of current in house builds and shows us what’s been changed and what bugs are there and where progress is on v2.0.

Thats rude

[irongripz]

refund please ty.

[Zenaku]

Many of the players aren't happy with the announcement of the early subscription fee. I for one still find enjoyment in Eorzea and enough I think to pay for a subscription fee. I also love being apart of a game that’s slowly building to something great and seeing what was and what is now. Final Fantasy XIV has come so far thanks to Yoshi-p and his team. But this isn’t why I’m writing this post, I’m writing this post because unfortunately we will be getting charged full price monthly for an unfinished product.

So my suggestion is while we will be paying $12.99 or more a month for an unfinished product we the customer do not want to be kept in the dark any longer. For us subscribers we would like exclusives. During the PS2 release of FFXI there was a nifty little app on the community website called “Vana’diel Winds.” For those that don’t know what this app was or still is (I say was because it no longer works for me). This app connected potential new players and others to a live feed of a hidden camera flying throughout the world of Vana’diel, which showcased the game and the activities within.

I propose something similar but within the developer’s office, we would like to watch you all work on v2.0 almost like we watch sports on television or a reality TV show without the commentary or “drama” just work like you have been day by day and forget the camera’s are there. Set up live 24/7 webcam feeds behind key members of the developing team including over Yoshi-p’s desk and all meetings with adequate audio and video. We want to see the inner workings and provide our own play by plays and speculation. Also post on a blog all concept art and someone who will show us video footage of current in house builds and shows us what’s been changed and what bugs are there and where progress is on v2.0.

We can’t just rely on a promise from Square Enix anymore we are investing our money in to this project so like the concerned investor we want to see what’s going on. If the community agrees with this and would be willing to pay IF they implement this then please bring traffic to this post.

Of course after v2.0 is out you can stop the live feeds, but don’t forget we’ve stuck around and remember us a veterans so compensate us with something in game via items or exclusives? Maybe an open public test server and everyone who stays and pays from the beginning of the subscription fee up to release of v2.0 will be first pick when requesting beta patch testers. Also this would be how you determine who are veterans by who’s stayed within that period of time.

they never going to show us work lol if they do then there noting to show us later down the road lol.

[Jennestia]

Aside the fact it's actually not good business practice to do such, not to mention certain laws and standards with allowing people to 'watch them work'. There's a reason most companies don't let you watch them work and it's not because they didn't think about it or never wanted to, it's because there's a lot of risk involved.

[Liniont]

If they give us an exclusive item or something BESIDES the content they are already making exclusive, cool, I'll take it, whatever.
But this sense of entitlement is pretty stupid. Seriously, if you don't feel it's worth it without something shiny being thrown at you, then just stop playing until 2.0.

Sense of entitlement? Really so spending $75 and now an addition of the subscription fee before a complete product and we the customer have no right to be entitled for sticking by a product we believe in while others leave and let it die? Tell me something when you pay for a meal at a restaurant are you not entitled to a completely cooked and edible meal? When you purchase a tool from lowes or home depot are you not entitled the guaranty that it will be reliable and function properly? The fact of the matter is I put my hard earned money in to a game and feel entitled to what the product guaranties not a half finish product.

I digress I already said I'm staying for the long haul and I never said those items have to be game changing or ridiculous I would be happy with a title or something just so that people know we were the few who stuck by when no one else would because we believed in the work of the dev team.

Also the content they are creating for v2.0 I can argue should have been in the game at release not 2 or 3 years after the fact.

[kensredemption]

Aside the fact it's actually not good business practice to do such, not to mention certain laws and standards with allowing people to 'watch them work'. There's a reason most companies don't let you watch them work and it's not because they didn't think about it or never wanted to, it's because there's a lot of risk involved.

Or competing companies could be watching and try to sabotage their progress.

[smokymcweed]

why would i want to watch ppl work a free item yea maybe but i can live with out it op is being elitist thinking they deserv something shutup and play the game

[Liniont]

Aside the fact it's actually not good business practice to do such, not to mention certain laws and standards with allowing people to 'watch them work'. There's a reason most companies don't let you watch them work and it's not because they didn't think about it or never wanted to, it's because there's a lot of risk involved.

I do get that there are laws that restrict that so why not just the blog post? Yoshi-P doesn't have a lot of time on his hands to even make the letters from the producer so perhaps someone from the PR team or something could post day to day or week to week updates on whats going on in the office. Other game companies do it.