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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaFlare View Post
    How does SE defend against future ddos attacks? Do we have to deal with constant dc/interruptions every time an attack occurs? Could SE use ddos attack as an excuse every time server problem arises? If an attacker is persistent enough and attacks the servers everyday, does the game then become unplayable?
    There is no real way to defend against a DDoS attack as it is basically just a massive wave of traffic so outside of taking the servers down the servers will continue to eat that traffic. There are ways to mitigate it but often times it is just a game of waiting it out or finding the general mass source and blocking it which often catches a large quantity of users in its wake. As far as the second question... yes they could use it as an excuse whenever they like should they choose to do so.
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    My thing is: why attack a video game server that's meant for entertainment? Where's the gain? All they did was piss a lot of people off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by negiman4 View Post
    My thing is: why attack a video game server that's meant for entertainment? Where's the gain? All they did was piss a lot of people off.
    Answered your own question
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  5. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    Answered your own question
    And that accomplishes what, exactly? Who would go out of their way to piss a massive amount of people off? To me, that's a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmegaFlare View Post
    How does SE defend against future ddos attacks? Do we have to deal with constant dc/interruptions every time an attack occurs? Could SE use ddos attack as an excuse every time server problem arises? If an attacker is persistent enough and attacks the servers everyday, does the game then become unplayable?
    There are methods to sort of help, but in my opinion, they're really hard to counter. You can think of a router as a small computer. You can think of it having incoming ports and outgoing ports. When multiple packets go to the same destination, they're put in a queue. But the router only has so much memory, so when the queue is full packets are dropped. That's why it's bad for actual traffic.

    It's hard to counter because of the nature of the attack itself. There are too many addresses that the router wouldn't be able to filter them all. It just doesn't have the resources to do that. The best a router could do is filter by range, but it's optimistic to think that all the IP addresses would be in the same range.
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  7. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by negiman4 View Post
    My thing is: why attack a video game server that's meant for entertainment? Where's the gain? All they did was piss a lot of people off.
    That's the point.
    It's for the lol's. To piss people off, get them angry, cause chaos, so then they can sit back and laugh at the misfortune. That's how it usually goes.

    Anyways.. I personally am not having that many issues playing since the 16th. Only main issues i am having/had is The Great Wall of Raubahn, and the Instances congestion that boots me when i queue for instanced quests, sometimes PvP and Dungeons. That was for the 16th, 17th, and maybe 18th too.. Don't remember that much, but i'm not having nearly as many issues as the first 2 days of EA, and i'm on a NA server.
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  8. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by wicked-one View Post
    so... a DDoS...



    As pointed out, why was then EU Datacenter affected if they attacked the NA ones..?

    smells fishy
    EU/JP had day 1 issues only which likely due to the instance server overload which passed quickly compared to NA that took 3 days and NA has been having issues since.
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  9. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by negiman4 View Post
    And that accomplishes what, exactly? Who would go out of their way to piss a massive amount of people off? To me, that's a bad thing.
    Questioning the reasoning behind the actions of immature people will only result in headaches.

    Getting a rise out of people is fun for them, they face no punishment for doing it, so they're doing it because they can.
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    ~sigh~

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    For those who say "this is just an excuse" or "why would people DDOS a game for no reason, SE is just making things up" remember that Blizzard also got DDOSed when they were launching one of their expansion... forgot which one. And also PSO2, the other biggest MMO in the market after WoW and FFXIV,also got DDOSed once that actually made all of their servers went down for three weeks.

    So people really sometimes just do that for no reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by negiman4 View Post
    And that accomplishes what, exactly? Who would go out of their way to piss a massive amount of people off? To me, that's a bad thing.
    Why ask? Blizzard's own WoW has been DDoS'd for years now. Like 4+. Why did they do it? What gain? To get a laugh at the misery of those they have made unhappy. Some odd i-net notoriety? Other fancy things that comes with being the ones against the sheeple? If you disbelieve someone would, then perhaps you need to investigate Lizard Squad. Assuming any of their exploits have remained after their short stint.
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