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    Quote Originally Posted by negiman4 View Post
    A DDoS attack sounds like something that requires a lot of resources to pull off. Its just a ton of computers accessing a server at once right? You would think that whoever has access to so many computers is rather well off or very influential. But if that's the case, wouldn't they have better things to do with their time?
    It doesn't actually. You just need a bit of tech savviness and to know where to get the right programs and such.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    It doesn't actually. You just need a bit of tech savviness and to know where to get the right programs and such.
    Or some money and the right contacts. There are botnets (large numbers of infected computers that can be controlled from a single location) that one can rent for a short or long time.

    DDoS attacks are fairly easy and cheap to do, and hard to trace back to the originators. They are also usually low priority among law enforcement people, so it is rare that anyone responsible actually gets caught.
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    Quote Originally Posted by negiman4 View Post
    A DDoS attack sounds like something that requires a lot of resources to pull off. Its just a ton of computers accessing a server at once right? You would think that whoever has access to so many computers is rather well off or very influential. But if that's the case, wouldn't they have better things to do with their time?
    In times of Cloud Services, also DDoS Botnets are up for rent.

    Worst example: Even a rich kid with daddys platincard could pull that off if it happens to him he had no time on EA day and want to screw everyone elses day as well..

    So for the why, let´s quote good ol´ Alfred



    Quote Originally Posted by Rita1989 View Post
    EU/JP had day 1 issues only which likely due to the instance server overload which passed quickly compared to NA that took 3 days and NA has been having issues since.
    We had more than "day 1 issues" but that point is, that news-post sounds like "nope, not our fault, totally theirs"...

    OP even immedeatly suggested it was Lizard Squad with no point of proof
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    Quote Originally Posted by negiman4 View Post
    A DDoS attack sounds like something that requires a lot of resources to pull off. Its just a ton of computers accessing a server at once right? You would think that whoever has access to so many computers is rather well off or very influential. But if that's the case, wouldn't they have better things to do with their time?
    DDOS attack is usually done by what's called zombie computers. Basically, millions of computer are already infected with malware and such right now that didn't do anything noticeable, and when the someone want to use them they just signal those thousands of millions of infected computers to send data to the place they want to DDOS, without the owners even realizing. That's why DDOS is hard to defend against, because it's so cheap and simple to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by negiman4 View Post
    A DDoS attack sounds like something that requires a lot of resources to pull off. Its just a ton of computers accessing a server at once right? You would think that whoever has access to so many computers is rather well off or very influential. But if that's the case, wouldn't they have better things to do with their time?
    Not necessarily..

    The hacker(s) can use hacked computers to send a signal to the server, in example, your personal computer that had a certain virus embedded in it to send the signal without you even knowing. They can also just use VPS or a Dedicated system rented from some service provider with a program installed in said systems to send out multiple connection signals. Then there is also LAN cafes.. Too many ways to get the resource the hacker needs really.

    It doesn't mean the hacker them self has to own many systems in their own home to issue out the attack, most of the time the attack is made online, masking their Proxy to look like the attack came form China or some other place. You can even pay a website that deals with this kind of service to send out attacks to a server. Anyone really can send an attack if you know what you are doing. It's not as hard as you think it may be. I too once thought 1 system meant 1 connection signal, till i had a friend told me on how these attacks work and how they happen.
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    Think bigger, this also damages SE future credibility, 2 bird 1 stone. If it IS A ddos attack...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fri View Post
    DDOS attack is usually done by what's called zombie computers. Basically, millions of computer are already infected with malware and such right now that didn't do anything noticeable, and when the someone want to use them they just signal those thousands of millions of infected computers to send data to the place they want to DDOS, without the owners even realizing. That's why DDOS is hard to defend against, because it's so cheap and simple to do.
    Alright. Then why not block the ip addresses of the computers that the attack is coming from? I'm assuming that if you play ffxiv, then you're sending data to their servers anyway so it wouldn't really matter if actual ffxiv players were infected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by negiman4 View Post
    Alright. Then why not block the ip addresses of the computers that the attack is coming from? I'm assuming that if you play ffxiv, then you're sending data to their servers anyway so it wouldn't really matter if actual ffxiv players were infected.
    The IP of the attackers are constantly changing and being masked to make it look like the attack is coming from X location at any given moment. You can't simply block the IP without blocking real, or potential players.

    All they can do is pay extra bucks to put in DDoS attack relieving tech that can eat up the "fake" multiple connections while letting through the real ones. It ain't cheap!

    And don't worry, everything will go back to normal in a week or 2 at most. These attacks don't usually last that long, and neither does the current problems happening in-game.
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    Last edited by Rawrrior; 06-21-2017 at 04:19 PM.

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