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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurimi View Post
    This is actually a real life crime and can be punished as such depending on the country of the offender/country of the victim and whether extradition agreements are in place. It is just rarely enacted upon as most companies dont feel it worth the legal fees to push.
    It's also extremely difficult to gather sufficient evidence and determine who is exactly responsible, and there are still plenty of countries that don't have appropriate levels of law to deal with cyber crime.

    As for this instance; no they haven't told any lie. It seems like a script kiddie decided to make the server issues worse than they should have been, using the early access and influx of players to hide their activity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yurimi View Post
    Really depends as it would not be considered a federal crime in most countries but an attack of person so unless a company chooses to press charges (loss and damages in most cases) then there is really nothing a law agency can do other than "monitor" the offender for the future.
    Most countries have laws that make hacking a criminal, not a civil offense though, it's just low priority and very underfunded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YitharV2 View Post
    Well my anecdotal experience says that today felt different than every other day since EA. Today I actually got lag in game where I would see multiple people with the DC icon, but I wouldn't actually disconnect. Every other time I'd get lag it would be for a few seconds and then I'd disconnect.

    But all that says is today is different. Considering it is the release date, you might not be wrong. Well, anyways, to the routers it's a flood of packets whether it's customers or a malicious third party.
    I saw the same lag spikes on the first day of Early Access, including DC waves.
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    This explains NA servers but not EU last night I was unable to login I was in a que of 1600 when I got home from work by 8pm it had gotten down to 600 but then encountered an error which closed the game making it so I was at the back of the que again of 2600 in which point I gave up.
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    Well...

    I suppose the servers held up fairly well considering...
    They were actually still available during early access...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I saw the same lag spikes on the first day of Early Access, including DC waves.
    Yeah, like I said, it's anecdotal, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathryn View Post
    This explains NA servers but not EU last night I was unable to login I was in a que of 1600 when I got home from work by 8pm it had gotten down to 600 but then encountered an error which closed the game making it so I was at the back of the que again of 2600 in which point I gave up.
    That would be the signs of a DOS attack on the EU, for example. If the que kept going up and up and up. That's one thing that happened last DOS attack when it had just started.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    DDOS attacks don't come from a single source, they are massively distributed, amidst a massive increase in active players it would be hard to pick out such an attack at the time, but easier in hindsight. It takes time analyzing logs and traces, then you have to present your findings and decide how best to react and when/how to publicly respond. Accusing SE of lying suggests a lack of understanding.
    How does SE defend against future ddos attacks? Do we have to deal with constant dc/interruptions every time an attack occurs? Could SE use ddos attack as an excuse every time server problem arises? If an attacker is persistent enough and attacks the servers everyday, does the game then become unplayable?
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    Last edited by OmegaFlare; 06-21-2017 at 03:47 PM.

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    As an european player (from Chaos DC), i didnt get any trouble while playing since 16th until now so it can be true. The only problem was the queue but once inside the game i didnt feel any problem.
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    so... a DDoS...



    As pointed out, why was then EU Datacenter affected if they attacked the NA ones..?

    smells fishy

    PS: Monitoring Latency on EU Datacenter looked like this the last 30 days, still we had issues regarding instances in job and msq quests, congested worlds and login queues 2+ hours ...
    you can´t blame this exclusively on some third-party alone


    http://imgur.com/8jIPsYN
    Somehow, my imgur IMG wont show up!?
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    Last edited by wicked-one; 06-21-2017 at 04:02 PM.

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