Scholars what are your thoughts?

[Rawrz]

I've gone through most of the content as a SCH now. I'd be lying if I said I didn't come close a few times to being starved for mana, however I've had to deal with the bad mana management on WHM so I like to think I've got experience with it.

We're probably all undergeared and under leveled so once they changes I predict it'll get better.

WHM no longer has any issue with Mana regen. Thats in content where they contend or surpass dps with Aero III + Holy Spam for days on top of keeping the tank alive. Struggling on SCH from just single target DPS (no AOE after bane and 0 Mp cost shadowflare) is a clear sign they broke something. All of the resources. All of the same effort to DPS. None of the reward. You give the level 60 i270 HW SCH enough mobs and he WILL outdps a level 70 SB SCH with much healthier MP. That is just so disappointing.

[Cynfael]

My current thought is that I want to try structuring SCH feedback into a thread that mirrors the WHM one, which has garnered a great deal of feedback and at least some official acknowledgment.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...eedback-Thread

[dynus]

- Ruin II is garbo unless you must move and have nothing else to cast. It trips the GCD just like Broil but has 130 less potency, so there's rarely a point to using it.

I've always liked using casting Broil and following it up with Ruin II while DPSing. Since the GCD is all ready to go once you're finished casting Broil, hit the mob with two blasts almost at once.

[Cynfael]

I've always liked using casting Broil and following it up with Ruin II while DPSing. Since the GCD is all ready to go once you're finished casting Broil, hit the mob with two blasts almost at once.

It's a satisfying 1-2 feeling, but it's actually crippling your damage since you need to wait for the GCD upon casting Ruin II anyway. From a gameplay perspective you are much better off chaining Broil casts.

[LegoTechnic]

I've always liked using casting Broil and following it up with Ruin II while DPSing. Since the GCD is all ready to go once you're finished casting Broil, hit the mob with two blasts almost at once.

This isn't recommended, especially now that Broil II is out with its considerably higher potency (230 pot for Broil II, 100 pot for Ruin II). Since Ruin II triggers a global cooldown it takes you just as long to recover from casting it as it does to complete a cast of Broil, more or less. It's OK to follow up with Bio II if it needs a refresh, or to throw out a Ruin II if you're suddenly forced to move, but it is always better to spam Broil if your DoTs are up and you're stationary.

[KDSilver]

It's a satisfying 1-2 feeling, but it's actually crippling your damage since you need to wait for the GCD upon casting Ruin II anyway. From a gameplay perspective you are much better off chaining Broil casts.

Except now we can't weave energy drain like before and Ruin II is now 100 potency so
Broil II 230 - Ruin II 100 - Energy drain 150
In that case it's acceptable. But indeed, unless you have to move for a long time, Ruin II shouldn't be used cause it's a loss.

[Rawrz]

Except now we can't weave energy drain like before and Ruin II is now 100 potency so
Broil II 230 - Ruin II 100 - Energy drain 150
In that case it's acceptable. But indeed, unless you have to move for a long time, Ruin II shouldn't be used cause it's a loss.

Unless you are weaving TWO ogcds (energy drain + any other) broil with energy drain clipping the gcd (230+150=180, 380 over 3.5 seconds is 108) is better than ruin II + energy drain (100 +150=250, 250 over 2.5 secs is 100.) Bio or Aero would beat that though. ;[

They turned SCH into a clunky, mp exhaustive, aoe crippled dead husk. Put some lilies on SCHs graves pls.

[Aronys]

I've been maining SCH since 2.1, and the job has always been fun. I was a really good SCH, cleared so much content with it. But now? I regret trying to finish SB with my main job. My plan was this. Do MSQ as SCH, stay SCH as I loved it. Currently SCH is tediously boring and weak. I regret not switching to something else last Friday, as maybe then SB would be fun. Sure the story is good and all, but the gameplay is not good anymore, not on SCH. It got nerfed to hell aross the board and honestly I don't see SCH as a viable raid healer in SB at all. People will take WHM and AST, but SCH will not be taken into raids. We're a liability now and we cannot guarantee good heals or good anything really.

This sucks.

[Hysterior]

Put some lilies on SCHs graves pls.

I'll leave a card as well.

I do feel sad for SCH. It was my main from 2.0 for raiding. and this time, I decided to switch to Astro and do not regret it.
Will still LV SCH hoping that it gets some love before the raid tier opens.

[KDSilver]

Unless you are weaving TWO ogcds (energy drain + any other) broil with energy drain clipping the gcd (230+150=180, 380 over 3.5 seconds is 108) is better than ruin II + energy drain (100 +150=250, 250 over 2.5 secs is 100.) Bio or Aero would beat that though. ;[

They turned SCH into a clunky, mp exhaustive, aoe crippled dead husk. Put some lilies on SCHs graves pls.

well this is precisely one of the good moment to use ogcd, but the other aren't dedicated to dps but for the fairy orsomething else.
So i still prefer using ruin ii, especially because my game isn't running really smootly on my pc (laptop).
So for 8 potency, it's not a huge waste.