Scholars what are your thoughts?

[Vulcwen]

- Ruin II is garbo unless you must move and have nothing else to cast. It trips the GCD just like Broil but has 130 less potency, so there's rarely a point to using it.

I've made a suggestion before that makes ruin 2 better, and fixes some other issues with the job (like no weaving opportunity, DoTs that are too long in duration):
Add a 9s, 50 potency DoT to ruin 2 (keep the initial damage).. that makes it 250 potency, so better than broil 2, but not a massive DPS boost. It instantly means broil spam gets broken up with a ruin 2 DoT, we don't need a new skill (which is important, as SE doesn't like adding skills outside expansions), and that should make it more fun already.

EDIT: And of course, make break 70 potency AoE.

[Texa]

I was okay with being nerfed a little, but after playing the new SCH in a few dungeons I feel like we were really pigeon holed into having lucid dream on our hotbar even though we almost never needs aggro management since we don't have regens. Why was eye for eye made a role skill when it's basically useless to WHM and AST in most situations while having a very specific use for SCH? Why does my fairy get hit by every single aoe that's tossed out now? Why do I have to absolutely use dissipate if the tank pulls big now?

It's frustrating.

[ZaqueXIII]

I cant be the only person who doesn't like the broil 2 animation, broil 1 looked so good. I'm sad that we got that instead of more utility, did we really need a new GCD ability(broil would've been fine and maybe bump the potency up by 10 and make it an even 200. Losing a DOT and more skills involving the fairy(while removing abilities to take care of it) was bad enough and now there's this. TBH id rather get rid of the fairy and just give the scholar all the utility that the fairy has (magic resistance and skill/spell speed increase).

4.0 changes have had a negative impact on early game for all melee classes(tanks included) and have butchered and striped late game healers. Combat is less fun, its amazing that when they first announced role changes and ability updates, it was something to save us but it seems to have had the opposite effect.

[Cynfael]

I cant be the only person who doesn't like the broil 2 animation

For me, the Broil II animation is one of the few positives in this patch for SCH lol.

[Tferr]

I want an explanation for this:

[Feidam]

For me, the Broil II animation is one of the few positives in this patch for SCH lol.

I think the new broil 2 looks great too.

[SoulEchelon]

All I can say is this:

I did Dun Scaith as Scholar last night with the other healer being nearly brain dead. I've never been so mana hungry in all my life. This is coming from someone who openly admits they didn't read Scholar's patchnotes very thoroughly - Whatever SE did to this class is just....no. Nonononono.

Before the update, I was having fun. It was cool going crazy with mana to keep my team alive while quickly being able to regain it back through strategic usage of Energy Drain and Aetherflow. I was able to switch to dps easily and as long as I kept an eye on that mana, I could spam Broil and my Dots as much as needed. Rouse+Whispering Dawn was my "Osht" button. But now? Nope. I had to work harder than I ever did in that Dun Scaith run.

Guess I'm switching to AST as my main healer role; at least until SE fixes these issues, which I'm sure they will eventually.

[Ghishlain]

I want an explanation for this:

If you're asking why Fey Union isn't affected by Rouse, it's most likely because either (1) Fey Union is a SCH ability [I think, according to job guide] or (2) Fey Union is attributed as an ability and similar to how Divine Seal / Largesse has no effect on ability-type heals, Rouse would have no affect on Fey Union since Rouse states "Increases healing magic potency and damage dealt by pet by 40%."

[Texa]

I've been having to actively discourage people in my FC from playing Scholar anymore once I saw first hand how poorly we perform the further you get into the expansion. At 61-64 it's no big but from 65 and on is a decline. Pools of Tribute is challenging to the point of being nearly impossible to heal through with two scholars without other casters mp sharing with us and res-ing when needed. I got it with another scholar earlier and by the last phase we were both running on empty mp and only able to keep half the party alive. I am not new to scholar and I've played arcanist roles since I started the game 2 years ago. Double Scholar was never ideal for trials but even in stuff like Final Steps back when it was new was not this hard to manage mp for.

[ToasterMan]

I've gone through most of the content as a SCH now. I'd be lying if I said I didn't come close a few times to being starved for mana, however I've had to deal with the bad mana management on WHM so I like to think I've got experience with it.

We're probably all undergeared and under leveled so once they changes I predict it'll get better.